Chiefs Gretz weighs in on the GM situation - Page 3

FloridaMan88 · 12-30-2012, 09:19 PM

Another solid write-up from Bob Gretz (hell must have frozen over for me to type that):

http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-footb...lark-hunt.html

Column: Defining Moment Ahead For Clark Hunt

I would not begin to even think that I could read the mind of Clark Hunt and what his plans are for the Hunt Family football team.

Chiefs Nation has their fingers, toes, even eyes crossed that New Year’s Eve 2012 will be the moment when the madness and losing of the Pioli Era will end and a new future will be laid out for the football team.

Two months ago, my personal opinion was that Hunt didn’t have the guts to admit his mistake and fire Pioli. Now, after everything that happened with his franchise over the last four months, I’m not sure Hunt has the guts not to make a big change. How could he possibly ignore what’s gone down with the Chiefs and why they are the NFL’s worst team in 2012?

Well, let me assure you he can, and he might. I don’t think it’s a lead-pipe cinch that the hurricane of change roils through the franchise. The fans and media think that Hunt has to be embarrassed and angry with the performance of his team on the field under Pioli’s direction. They are now 23-42 after losing Sunday in Denver, some 19 games under .500 and far removed from being a championship contender.

I do believe Hunt wants a winning team. What I don’t know, and we all don’t know, is just how important winning is on his radar screen. There may be other areas and avenues of the organization that rank higher on his list of goals. That remains a mystery.

Or, at least it will be in the shadows until he explains what his immediate plans are for the organization. If he keeps Pioli, it will provide everyone with an emphatic answer that winning is not the most important item on his agenda.

A 2-14 season cries out for some sort of reply from ownership. Firing/retiring Romeo Crennel is not going to be a big enough change. There’s no question the Chiefs coaching staff was not a strong one and that doesn’t just fall at the feet of Crennel, not in an organization where Pioli has his finger in every pie and the willingness to overrule any notion that is not his.

For four years now, we have seen that this fish rots from the head down. Now, Clark Hunt will show us if he was the problem ahead of Pioli.

The immediate future of the team depends on what he decides. This is not just a move about changing the names in the office directory. This franchise must reconnect with its fans. There needs to be profound change in the way business is conducted by the Kansas City Chiefs Football Club, Inc.

A red and gold nation awaits a moment where Clark Hunt makes a decision that shows he understands and he has listened.

But, don’t be surprised if he says he does understand and has listened but is going to keep his general manager while sacrificing his head coach.

Anything is possible.

**SAUTO** · 12-30-2012, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

You don't have any idea what you would feel like if we were winning or what those other fans feel like if we were winning.

Because winning to Chiefs fans is only a hypothetical. I think his absentee ownership is one reason for that. Not the biggest though.

yes I know how I would feel if we were winning.

I wouldn't give a **** where Clark lives
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|Zach| · 12-30-2012, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

yes I know how I would feel if we were winning.

I wouldn't give a **** where Clark lives
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How old are you?

**SAUTO** · 12-30-2012, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

I guess we will find out tomorrow. If he retains Pioli then he doesn't have a clue

True.

Or he only cares about the money he makes.
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**SAUTO** · 12-30-2012, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

How old are you?

old enough to know that I wouldn't give a **** where Clark lives.

It just doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.

But I probably have seen how an owner of sports teams runs things when he doesn't live in the town the teams are in a little closer than you bud.
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ChiefsCountry · 12-30-2012, 11:21 PM

Clark's brother and all of his wife's family lives in Kansas City. Dan Glass, David Glass's son, lives in KC. Lets not act like they aren't in the city at all. Shit in David Glass's case he lives right on the Missouri/Arkansas border. Would you be pissed if he lived in Wichita and owned the team? Or Columbia? Or at the Lake of the Ozarks? Because all of them are about the same distance away. Hunt in Dallas is farther for sure, but its not that bad.

|Zach| · 12-30-2012, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

old enough to know that I wouldn't give a **** where Clark lives.

It just doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.

But I probably have seen how an owner of sports teams runs things when he doesn't live in the town the teams are in a little closer than you bud.
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You have to be of a certain age to have any idea what it is like for the Chiefs to be a winning franchise.

Last playoff win was '94. Championship was '69.

Winning is only a hypothetical. An abstract to most of us.

**SAUTO** · 12-30-2012, 11:22 PM

And it's not going to change my mind.

I can tell you with 100 percent certainty
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|Zach| · 12-30-2012, 11:25 PM

In this thread.

Jasonsauto imagines what he would feel like in a hypothetical situation where the Chiefs are winners.

**dirk digler** · 12-30-2012, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Clark's brother and all of his wife's family lives in Kansas City. Dan Glass, David Glass's son, lives in KC. Lets not act like they aren't in the city at all. Shit in David Glass's case he lives right on the Missouri/Arkansas border. Would you be pissed if he lived in Wichita and owned the team? Or Columbia? Or at the Lake of the Ozarks? Because all of them are about the same distance away. Hunt in Dallas is farther for sure, but its not that bad.

I want my owners to live in the city where the team resides. That is not asking too much.

I would probably make an exception for someone like Mark Cuban because I at least know that he wants to win. I don't get that sense for the Glass's and Hunt's.

|Zach| · 12-30-2012, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

I want my owners to live in the city where the team resides. That is not asking too much.

I would probably make an exception for someone like Mark Cuban because I at least know that he wants to win. I don't get that sense for the Glass's and Hunt's.

Why be a part of a community when you can just suck cash out of them and live it up somewhere else. Not giving a shit about winning.

ChiefsCountry · 12-30-2012, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

I want my owners to live in the city where the team resides. That is not asking too much.

I would probably make an exception for someone like Mark Cuban because I at least know that he wants to win. I don't get that sense for the Glass's and Hunt's.

You live in Clinton. If you had a billion dollars and bought the team, would you move to Kansas City or stay where you are now.

Imon Yourside · 12-30-2012, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

I want my owners to live in the city where the team resides. That is not asking too much.

I would probably make an exception for someone like Mark Cuban because I at least know that he wants to win. I don't get that sense for the Glass's and Hunt's.

Clark Hunt announces he's going to sell the team and Mark Cuban is the buyer....Kansas City drinks the kool-aid Jim Jones style, count it.

**SAUTO** · 12-30-2012, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

In this thread.

Jasonsauto imagines what he would feel like in a hypothetical situation where the Chiefs are winners.

Actually jasonsauto TELLS you he would not give a **** where the owner lives if the chiefs were winners.

Jasonsauto doesn't give a **** where the owner lives right now either.

All owners own other businesses that take substantial time away from their teams.

Hell Stan kroenke owns teams in at least three states.
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**SAUTO** · 12-30-2012, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

I want my owners to live in the city where the team resides. That is not asking too much.

I would probably make an exception for someone like Mark Cuban because I at least know that he wants to win. I don't get that sense for the Glass's and Hunt's.

lol.
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|Zach| · 12-30-2012, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Actually jasonsauto TELLS you he would not give a **** where the owner lives if the chiefs were winners.

Jasonsauto doesn't give a **** where the owner lives right now either.

All owners own other businesses that take substantial time away from their teams.

Hell Stan kroenke owns teams in at least three states.
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You won't have any idea how it would feel if the Chiefs were winners with Clark at the helm.

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ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $-1391248	Clark's brother and all of his wife's family lives in Kansas City. Dan Glass, David Glass's son, lives in KC. Lets not act like they aren't in the city at all. Shit in David Glass's case he lives right on the Missouri/Arkansas border. Would you be pissed if he lived in Wichita and owned the team? Or Columbia? Or at the Lake of the Ozarks? Because all of them are about the same distance away. Hunt in Dallas is farther for sure, but its not that bad.
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12-30-2012, 09:19 PM
FloridaMan88 Mahomes: We Are All Witnesses Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami, FL Casino cash: $-547094	Another solid write-up from Bob Gretz (hell must have frozen over for me to type that): http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-footb...lark-hunt.html Column: Defining Moment Ahead For Clark Hunt I would not begin to even think that I could read the mind of Clark Hunt and what his plans are for the Hunt Family football team. Chiefs Nation has their fingers, toes, even eyes crossed that New Year’s Eve 2012 will be the moment when the madness and losing of the Pioli Era will end and a new future will be laid out for the football team. Two months ago, my personal opinion was that Hunt didn’t have the guts to admit his mistake and fire Pioli. Now, after everything that happened with his franchise over the last four months, I’m not sure Hunt has the guts not to make a big change. How could he possibly ignore what’s gone down with the Chiefs and why they are the NFL’s worst team in 2012? Well, let me assure you he can, and he might. I don’t think it’s a lead-pipe cinch that the hurricane of change roils through the franchise. The fans and media think that Hunt has to be embarrassed and angry with the performance of his team on the field under Pioli’s direction. They are now 23-42 after losing Sunday in Denver, some 19 games under .500 and far removed from being a championship contender. I do believe Hunt wants a winning team. What I don’t know, and we all don’t know, is just how important winning is on his radar screen. There may be other areas and avenues of the organization that rank higher on his list of goals. That remains a mystery. Or, at least it will be in the shadows until he explains what his immediate plans are for the organization. If he keeps Pioli, it will provide everyone with an emphatic answer that winning is not the most important item on his agenda. A 2-14 season cries out for some sort of reply from ownership. Firing/retiring Romeo Crennel is not going to be a big enough change. There’s no question the Chiefs coaching staff was not a strong one and that doesn’t just fall at the feet of Crennel, not in an organization where Pioli has his finger in every pie and the willingness to overrule any notion that is not his. For four years now, we have seen that this fish rots from the head down. Now, Clark Hunt will show us if he was the problem ahead of Pioli. The immediate future of the team depends on what he decides. This is not just a move about changing the names in the office directory. This franchise must reconnect with its fans. There needs to be profound change in the way business is conducted by the Kansas City Chiefs Football Club, Inc. A red and gold nation awaits a moment where Clark Hunt makes a decision that shows he understands and he has listened. But, don’t be surprised if he says he does understand and has listened but is going to keep his general manager while sacrificing his head coach. Anything is possible.
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