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Old 01-01-2013, 05:09 PM  
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Player Needs for 2013.

What positions need to be addressed in 2013?

QB, WR, FS, ILB, CB?

Thoughts?
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Old 01-01-2013, 06:31 PM   #31
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We have a shit-tastic DL, nothing at CB after Flowers, nothing at safety after Berry, and people are worried about Brandon Siler?

Jesus Tapdancing Christ.

Can he be upgraded? Sure, just like every other position not manned by Jamaal Charles, Justin Houston, Tamba Hali, Derrick Johnson, Brandon Flowers and Eric Berry.

Some of the better ILB's in this league are late round picks or UDFA's.

ILB is the LAST position we need to spend significant resources on.
We at least have a guy to play Corner behind Flowers. I can name two.
Two guys who are at least serviceable.

You name two guys who can play ILB behind Siler.

Siler is the guy who was playing behind the other guy EVERYBODY thought we should replace.

Starting ILB is a position of need just like CB and WR.
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Old 01-01-2013, 06:34 PM   #32
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Old 01-01-2013, 06:35 PM   #33
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Might as well follow up with an ILB in Round 2.
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Old 01-01-2013, 06:36 PM   #34
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Wasn't Menzie suppose to be used as a safety?

Are we throwing him out before he actually plays?
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Old 01-01-2013, 06:37 PM   #35
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i dare say you are going to need at least 1 veteran or rookie olineman to push some of these guys. Stephenson and Jeff Allen were ****ing horrible this year and if they go into next year with no competition at their positions (Lilja retired, potential of losing Albert because who knows if we will get a GM by ****ing February or not at this point) They will need a guard or a tackle to come in and not let these guys just coast as starters, because that could really stunt their progression and they could be worse than they were this year. And our QB will get slaughtered
Do you propose to protect our QB with rookie offensive linemen?

We had a chance to build up the lines. It could look very good if we keep Albert. If we don't, then we're ****ed.

We'll need to scour free agency to find replacement starters. I don't trust 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round rookies to protect my new QB or push Stephenson and Allen. Get a veteran in here to push the young guys. If they get replaced, you at least know the guy coming in has experience and will commit far fewer ****ups.
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Old 01-01-2013, 06:37 PM   #36
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We have a shit-tastic DL, nothing at CB after Flowers, nothing at safety after Berry, and people are worried about Brandon Siler?

Jesus Tapdancing Christ.

Can he be upgraded? Sure, just like every other position not manned by Jamaal Charles, Justin Houston, Tamba Hali, Derrick Johnson, Brandon Flowers and Eric Berry.

Some of the better ILB's in this league are late round picks or UDFA's.

ILB is the LAST position we need to spend significant resources on.
Agree that he is the least of our worries along the front 7. Also think scheme had a hand in our problems.
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Might as well follow up with an ILB in Round 2.
Can never have enough lineman.
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Old 01-01-2013, 06:40 PM   #38
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Wasn't Menzie suppose to be used as a safety?

Are we throwing him out before he actually plays?
Menzie was drafted to be worthless. He was supposed to be a tweener CB/S who could play nickel. Kind of like how we drafted two OTs in the 2nd and 3rd round when we needed help at a LOT of other positions.

That's the thing about depth. You don't draft shitty guys to play depth positions. You draft hardcore athletes with the potential to be starters for your depth. That's what we haven't done for four years under Pioli, and that's the biggest struggle the new coach is going to have in turning the team around.
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Old 01-01-2013, 06:42 PM   #39
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Do you propose to protect our QB with rookie offensive linemen?

We had a chance to build up the lines. It could look very good if we keep Albert. If we don't, then we're ****ed.

We'll need to scour free agency to find replacement starters. I don't trust 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round rookies to protect my new QB or push Stephenson and Allen. Get a veteran in here to push the young guys. If they get replaced, you at least know the guy coming in has experience and will commit far fewer ****ups.
you lost Lilja and Albert is up in the air, I'm not saying spend a Scott Pioli vintage 2nd or 3rd round pick on an olineman

but they might have to bring in a veteran starter to not let guys like Jeff Allen and Stephenson coast to NO competition at their positions in only their 2nd year

because both were terrible as rookies.
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Old 01-01-2013, 06:46 PM   #40
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Might as well follow up with an ILB in Round 2.
Hell might as well trade up to two and take teo also.
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Because as many of you have stated and I agree with that this is a pass first league and especially in our division with Manning,Rivers and Palmer staring down our defense, where did our D rank in sacks this year?

QB's were waaaaaaaaaay to comfortable in the pocket against us this year IMO. As someone stated in another thread, we need QBs and Pass rushers which were the essential positions needed to win SB's especially in the 4th qrt according to Bill Walsh.
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Old 01-01-2013, 06:53 PM   #42
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So in the second we should be targeting???

Vaccarro, Reid, Minter, Eifert, Elam, Hopkins, Austin, Woods, Banks, Poyer, Ertz, Hunter, Rhodes

Not bad options.
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Old 01-02-2013, 02:20 PM   #43
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Everywhere. This team is top-heavy with no depth or talent outside the top 10 players. Also, Flowers, Johnson and Hali are already in 2nd contracts. Houston and Berry have two more years to go. Bad news to have to resign those two in the same off season. Houston will be expensive coming off a 3rd round contract.
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