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Old 09-18-2013, 09:31 AM   #1
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Philly is going to beat us a few times snapping the ball off before our D gets in position watch and see.
Don't be surprised to see Berry used as the "star" a lot in this game. He will basically be used as a hybrid LB and spy on Vick. His #1 job will be to stop the read option whether it be Vick or McCoy. Auburn beat Oregon in the National Championship running variations of the nickel all day. LSU did the same thing the next year. Les Miles even practiced for the read option without a ball. Every guy just went to their assigned man. Our base defense will probably be the nickel in Philly. It matches up best against that offense and you can rotate DBs quickly. I could really see this happening.

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Old 09-18-2013, 12:59 AM   #2
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Sums up a big part of the philosophy of this Defense
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Old 09-18-2013, 01:09 AM   #3
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Sums up a big part of the philosophy of this Defense
It's so sweet to see a man willing to use this talent to attack and do it from every possible angle...
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Old 09-18-2013, 01:16 AM   #4
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It's so sweet to see a man willing to use this talent to attack and do it from every possible angle...
http://www.footballxos.com/download/...e-Rex-Ryan.pdf

here's the 2010 jets D. Its pretty much what they are running. Interesting reading when you have the time
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here's the 2010 jets D. Its pretty much what they are running. Interesting reading when you have the time
Other than sneaking the secondary close to the LOS and attacking it's really hard to nail down any tendencies. Constantly lining up in odd formations, strange stunts, and shifting heavy.

He/they like to disguise the S. Sometimes he's a LB and at times only there for "show" in the box. Sometimes he's in man, sometimes zone, but lined up right there on the LOS.

I'm no expert but it almost seems like they're trying to shift the idea of zone blitz confusion to the secondary instead of the front 7...
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Old 09-18-2013, 01:41 AM   #6
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Other than sneaking the secondary close to the LOS and attacking it's really hard to nail down any tendencies. Constantly lining up in odd formations, strange stunts, and shifting heavy.

He/they like to disguise the S. Sometimes he's a LB and at times only there for "show" in the box. Sometimes he's in man, sometimes zone, but lined up right there on the LOS.

I'm no expert but it almost seems like they're trying to shift the idea of zone blitz confusion to the secondary instead of the front 7...
Yep. Doesn't want to become predictable with who actually drops/blitzes in certain calls. Give some freedom to the OLB's to rush up in a two point or down in a 3 depending on their assignment.

Abdulluh and Demps have done a really good job in sub packages. Parker made a huge play and Cooper has held up in a handful of snaps
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Old 09-18-2013, 01:57 AM   #7
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the pure volume of what they have installed I've got to give Sutton a ton of credit. He only brought with him the QC coach on D for the jets, Mark DeLone. The rest of the staff had to learn the D. Brashear, Gibbs, and Emmitt Thomas have decades in the business though and have coached all sorts of D and technique. That playbook is crammed full of 4-3 3-4 over under 4-6 all sorts of stunts techniques and coverages. That's a ton to adapt to in one offseason. With CBA rule
changes in the meeting time allowed in the offseason and all things considered its very remarkable
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I'd really recommend that Direckshun reads the link from booger.
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Old 09-18-2013, 05:11 AM   #9
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Old 09-18-2013, 06:32 AM   #10
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I'm really interested to see how we handle Peyton. His bread & butter is reading defenses. Hopefully all this scheming will make his job harder at least.
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This team just seems much MUCH more prepared to compete compared to the last couple seasons.

It's just nice to have a coaching staff and front office that knows wtf they're doing and are on the same page. We haven't had that since DV era. But even then one side of the ball was completely ignored. We're in a much better situation now.

I mean you don't have 5-6 Pro Bowlers on a 2-14 team unless of 2 things:
- you have horrible incompetent coaching
- horrible QB play

Wow, that's funny, we had both. Which btw having 6 Pro bowlers on a team that went 2-14 has to be a NFL record. Can anyone remember a team with a worse record that had just as many or more PB players?
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Wow, that's funny, we had both. Which btw having 6 Pro bowlers on a team that went 2-14 has to be a NFL record. Can anyone remember a team with a worse record that had just as many or more PB players?


I think the NFL just felt sorry for us, so they let the Chiefs send a few more players.
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Nice post Direckshun. I like the way you refer to "down Linemen." You obviously know what you are talking about and I appreciate the formality of your description.

Interesting they are using some 4-3 in there.

Also, I wonder how many times they used three safeties in the nickel and dime? Are they using the 3-3-5 nickel with Berry in the "star" position? The star position is basically when a DB plays LB.

Did Berry play back at SS and Abdullah play nickel CB some? Or, was it Parker the nickel all day? Was Abdullah ever used as the Star? It would be interesting to see the secondary assignments too.

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Nice post Direckshun. I like the way you refer to "down Linemen." You obviously know what you are talking about and I appreciate the formality of your description.

Interesting they are using some 4-3 in there.

Also, I wonder how many times they used three safeties in the nickel and dime? Are they using the 3-3-5 nickel with Berry in the "star" position? The star position is basically when a DB plays LB.

Did Berry play back at SS and Abdullah play nickel CB some? Or, was it Parker the nickel all day? Was Abdullah ever used as the Star? It would be interesting to see the secondary assignments too.
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Also, I wonder how many times they used three safeties in the nickel and dime? Are they using the 3-3-5 nickel with Berry in the "star" position? The star position is basically when a DB plays LB.

Did Berry play back at SS and Abdullah play nickel CB some? Or, was it Parker the nickel all day? Was Abdullah ever used as the Star? It would be interesting to see the secondary assignments too.
Keep in mind I only eyed the second half, but:

* The Chiefs only went nickel on a passing down once.
* The Chiefs' dime package was four safeties: Berry (there is no place he didn't line up: ILB, OLB, deep, LOS, slot, over the TE), Lewis (deep 99% of the time), Abdullah at nickel usually covering the slot, and Demps at dime frequently covering the slot.
* Abdullah, as I said, was almost always playing NCB. Never noticed him at the star, but maybe once.
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