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Old 09-16-2014, 09:09 AM  
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Let's have a conversation about the job John Dorsey has done thus far.
In his first year, he drafted a bunch of guys that got hurt and showed nothing as rookies, but luckily he didn't need them because a bunch of guys stepped up. 3 of those players have been quite good in year 2...so far anyway.

Fisher
Davis
Kelce

All 3 have the ability to be good starters and that's an above average draft class if we are being objective.

Commings
Kush
Johnson
Catapano

These guys are all wild cards that can really tip the strength of the overall draft class. I think Kush has the ability to be a solid starter, myself. Who knows about Catapano.

Giving up so much for Alex Smith, but I'll reserve judgement until I see how he performs this year. If he plays well, I think the compensation was decent and also strengthens the overall draft class.

As it sits right now, I have a hard time grading the 2013 draft class lower than a solid B...with a chance to be a B+ or A- as the year goes on and more info is available.

Everybody was thrilled with free agency last year, but the contracts given to these guys were just silly. Especially to Colquitt, Daniel and Fasano. Those contracts are gonna prohibit us from locking up Berry or Houston long term. Watch. We all knew KC would need to overpay to bring free agents in to a bad team in an undesirable market...that's what happened.

The deal for Devito was ok (can't count the Achilles against the signing) but overall free agency can't get graded higher than a D+\C-. Maybe lower.

I don't think it would be fair to judge the 2014 draft class in any way with us only 2 games in, so I won't even touch on it.

Moving on to the 2014 free agent class...

Letting 3 starting quality offensive linemen walk is a tough pill to swallow...especially when the OL looks (early on at least) to be a real weakness on the team. Simply unacceptable. It sucks that we didn't target guys like TJ Ward or got things finalized with Sanders cause those would have helped us BIG TIME. And for similar money we gave to guys like Daniel and Fasano. Very frustrating. Replacing Tyson Jackson with Walker seems like an upgrade and signing Vickerson was solid as well. No way should they have paid Dexter what he got in Tennessee, so that one worked out as well. Letting Demps and Lewis walk were also solid decisions. I think I'd be hard pressed to grade this free agency period higher than a C- and if it weren't for signing Vickerson, it would be a D...at best.

IMO we missed a huge opportunity to upgrade the team here. Hopefully the reasons they have for why they did this are making sure to retain Houston and Berry long termZ if we don't, I want his head on a pike for losing either guy.

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Old 09-16-2014, 01:24 PM   #31
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How many of the following will be starting the Chiefs in 2016?

Fisher
Davis
Kelce
Nico Johnson
Sanders Commings
Eric Kush
Mike Catapano
more importantly ... How many SHOULD be starting for the Chiefs in 2016
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Old 09-16-2014, 01:26 PM   #32
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I just rewatched the entire game focusing primarily on Fisher and he played a GREAT GAME. The only sack he gave up was the one that wasn't even a sack. Both Davis TDs came on his side and several other big run plays.

LACF rating is +5.0

PFF can eat a dick.
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Old 09-16-2014, 01:30 PM   #33
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I have no clue what game PFF was watching...they must have an obvious bias against Fisher or something
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Old 09-16-2014, 01:31 PM   #34
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I'm popping corn and capturing GIFs now. Boy Fisher sucks. Post to come!
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Old 09-16-2014, 01:40 PM   #35
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I have no clue what game PFF was watching...they must have an obvious bias against Fisher or something
Well remember they were the ones that also didn't include Charles in there top 100 players and said the Seahawks had the worst o line last year
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Old 09-16-2014, 01:41 PM   #36
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OP forgot to mention Cooper who looked solid last year except vs Manning then on Sunday looked solid vs Manning aside from one play.

Fisher has been solid so far. He's had a few mistakes but has looked much better than last year or even preseason.
But hey PFF says he sucks. They also said the Seahawks OL was bad last year. Haha
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Old 09-16-2014, 01:44 PM   #37
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Ill give him a 6/10. Playoffs in first year but obviously some questionable decisions. I was VERY surprised that the Chiefs looked competitive against Denver on Sunday so that gives me some hope.
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Fisher played a pretty decent first quarter. There must be some huge whiffs coming. Watching coach's film.

Started the 2nd and he just got ****ing body slammed.
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Old 09-16-2014, 02:05 PM   #39
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Run blocking is shitty in the 2nd. He just executed a slide into 2nd base perfectly trying to block a LB.
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Fisher doesn't suck as much as a tackle as Zach Fulton sucks at guard.

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Would love to sit in on one of these PFF grading sessions. Albert gave up a sack against the Bills. Seems like his rating would be a little less pristine than they are showing.
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Fisher's run blocking is absolutely shitty so far. Midway through the third and I have 14 snaps where he is not doing well. Probably around 25 before we're all said and done.
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Would love to sit in on one of these PFF grading sessions. Albert gave up a sack against the Bills. Seems like his rating would be a little less pristine than they are showing.
If that was his only ding he had a great game.
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Would love to sit in on one of these PFF grading sessions. Albert gave up a sack against the Bills. Seems like his rating would be a little less pristine than they are showing.
If you give up one sack and have 75 other good plays it's not going to hurt you as much as giving up no sacks but six QB hits and hurries, because your failure ****ed up far more plays.
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I have no clue what game PFF was watching...they must have an obvious bias against Fisher or something
I don't give a **** about PFF.

I saw Fisher finally hold his ground against the bull rush.

I saw Fisher not over extend himself protecting the edge so he didn't get pulled forward and off-balance on a swim move.

I saw Fisher maintain leverage and have the strength to hold the point of attack.

I saw Fisher not fall on his face trying to move around on run blocks.

All these things are improvements over last year and even this preseason.

He's healthy and getting physically stronger which shows throughout his play.

PFF can eat a bag of dicks.
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