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Old 11-13-2015, 08:58 AM   #1
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These dumbshits ruin my day far too often.

I hate shitty drivers.
I despise them.

People that don't know how a four-way stop works.

People that refuse to pull into the intersection on a green light left turn yield.

People that come almost to a complete stop while turning into a parking lot or driveway.

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Old 11-13-2015, 09:07 AM   #2
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When I'm in the left lane I go ten miles over the speed limit. Yet my girlfriend tells me I'm a dick for not getting over for the people that want to go 20 over the speed limit. The argument I present to her is I'm only a dick if I'm already technically speeding and yet you still feel the need to get right up on my ass. I'll get over if the right lanes are clear, but I'm not getting over just to get myself stuck behind slower moving traffic because you feel the need to speed more than I currently already am. Yet my girlfriend still calls me a dick.
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Old 11-13-2015, 09:08 AM   #3
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When I'm in the left lane I go ten miles over the speed limit. Yet my girlfriend tells me I'm a dick for not getting over for the people that want to go 20 over the speed limit. The argument I present to her is I'm only a dick if I'm already technically speeding and yet you still feel the need to get right up on my ass. I'll get over if the right lanes are clear, but I'm not getting over just to get myself stuck behind slower moving traffic because you feel the need to speed more than I currently already am. Yet my girlfriend still calls me a dick.
Your girlfriend is right. The left lane is for PASSING not cruising. It doesn't matter how fast you're driving.
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Old 11-13-2015, 09:11 AM   #4
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The driver that pisses me off more than any other is the one that blows by me and then within 5 miles or so has slowed down in the fast lane because they're either on a call or texting.
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Old 11-13-2015, 09:15 AM   #5
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When I'm in the left lane I go ten miles over the speed limit. Yet my girlfriend tells me I'm a dick for not getting over for the people that want to go 20 over the speed limit. The argument I present to her is I'm only a dick if I'm already technically speeding and yet you still feel the need to get right up on my ass. I'll get over if the right lanes are clear, but I'm not getting over just to get myself stuck behind slower moving traffic because you feel the need to speed more than I currently already am. Yet my girlfriend still calls me a dick.
+1. Excellent job.

Now, for people going under the speed limit, not passing anyone, they have no real reason to be in the left lane. But the guy going ten over in the left lane is really a bigger asshole than the guy going 20 over, honking at you, riding your bumper 10 inches away? Which one do you think causes the most accidents and deaths every year?
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Old 11-13-2015, 09:17 AM   #6
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+1. Excellent job.

Now I do agree, people going under the speed limit, not passing anyone, have no real reason to be in the left lane. But the guy going ten over in the left lane is really a bigger asshole than the guy going 20 over, honking at you, riding your bumper 10 inches away? Which one do you think causes the most accidents and deaths every year?
The guy texting.
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Old 11-13-2015, 09:19 AM   #7
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Yes. If the speed limit is 65 mph, and I'm in the left lane going 72 mph. There is technically no reason you ever should need to pass me. In fact, you would be breaking the law by doing so. When I approach someone going slower than me in the left lane, you know what I do? I just pass them in the right lane, and I don't think anything of it. And my day goes on just fine. When I'm in the city driving in the left lane, I usually, you know, live over there and am expecting a left turn up ahead soon.

Usually when I'm in the left lane, I'm passing another driver, but apparently I'm not passing them as fast as the crazed lunatic behind me wants. And that is usually what you guys are bitching about anyway.
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When I'm in the left lane I go ten miles over the speed limit. Yet my girlfriend tells me I'm a dick for not getting over for the people that want to go 20 over the speed limit. The argument I present to her is I'm only a dick if I'm already technically speeding and yet you still feel the need to get right up on my ass. I'll get over if the right lanes are clear, but I'm not getting over just to get myself stuck behind slower moving traffic because you feel the need to speed more than I currently already am. Yet my girlfriend still calls me a dick.
You're both dicks, and are saying that your chosen level of speeding is okay, but anyone wanting to go faster is wrong. What the **** gives you the right to decide that? Move the **** over.
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Old 11-13-2015, 09:22 AM   #8
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When I'm in the left lane I go ten miles over the speed limit. Yet my girlfriend tells me I'm a dick for not getting over for the people that want to go 20 over the speed limit. The argument I present to her is I'm only a dick if I'm already technically speeding and yet you still feel the need to get right up on my ass. I'll get over if the right lanes are clear, but I'm not getting over just to get myself stuck behind slower moving traffic because you feel the need to speed more than I currently already am. Yet my girlfriend still calls me a dick.
There's definitely some patience needed in that situation for the guy going 20mph over... if someone wants to pass me, I make every attempt to get to the right so he can do that, but I'm not going to slow down and merge into the right lane and then get passed by people behind him.



And I never sit in the middle of an intersection waiting to turn left... you're saving what, a second, maybe two if it's a huge intersection?
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Old 11-13-2015, 04:18 PM   #9
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When I'm in the left lane I go ten miles over the speed limit. Yet my girlfriend tells me I'm a dick for not getting over for the people that want to go 20 over the speed limit. The argument I present to her is I'm only a dick if I'm already technically speeding and yet you still feel the need to get right up on my ass. I'll get over if the right lanes are clear, but I'm not getting over just to get myself stuck behind slower moving traffic because you feel the need to speed more than I currently already am. Yet my girlfriend still calls me a dick.
I agree with you. If you get over they always seem to block job you.
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Old 11-13-2015, 09:12 AM   #10
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I despise them.

People that don't know how a four-way stop works.

People that refuse to pull into the intersection on a green light left turn yield.

People that come almost to a complete stop while turning into a parking lot or driveway.

You actually aren't supposed to do this and it is unsafe. If you pull out into the intersection on a green light, waiting to turn left you put yourself in danger and can get into no mans land where you are either stuck in the middle of the intersection on a green light or have to turn left on a red light. When I used to do auto claims I used to get a kick out of that type of accident, they would always say the other person didn't stop for them.

So lets say you are approaching an intersection with a green solid light with two lanes in each direction going straight, and a left hand turning lane that has a solid green light as well. You decide to go out into the intersection and stop, even though there is bumper to bumper traffic going fast in the opposite direction. You sit there and sit there, no opening in sight, and then the light starts to turn yellow. Still no opening. It turns red, and now you are shit out of luck. If you would have stopped and waited back before entering the intersection you wouldn't have put yourself in this predicament. Now, you are forced to make your left turn while the light is red. And bam! You are T-boned by another vehicle. You claim the other person is solely at fault, but the reality is you are both at fault, and you are at fault more than the other guy. Not only did you run a red light, you also failed to yield while making a left hand turn.
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Old 11-13-2015, 09:13 AM   #11
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You actually aren't supposed to do this and it is unsafe. If you pull out into the intersection on a green light, waiting to turn left you put yourself in danger and can get into no mans land where you are either stuck in the middle of the intersection on a green light or have to turn left on a red light. When I used to do auto claims I used to get a kick out of that type of accident, they would always say the other person didn't stop for them.

So lets say you are approaching an intersection with a green solid light with two lanes in each direction going straight, and a left hand turning lane that has a solid green light as well. You decide to go out into the intersection and stop, even though there is bumper to bumper traffic going fast in the opposite direction. You sit there and sit there, no opening in sight, and then the light starts to turn yellow. Still no opening. It turns red, and now you are shit out of luck. If you would have stopped and waited back before entering the intersection you wouldn't have put yourself in this predicament. Now, you are forced to make your left turn while the light is red. And bam! You are T-boned by another vehicle. You claim the other person is solely at fault, but the reality is you are both at fault, and you are at fault more than the other guy. Not only did you run a red light, you also failed to yield while making a left hand turn.
Bullshit. You're supposed to. At least that's what every driving school in MO teaches. If the light turns red while you're waiting you have the right of way to finish your turn.
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Old 11-13-2015, 09:17 AM   #12
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Bullshit. You're supposed to. At least that's what every driving school in MO teaches. If the light turns red while you're waiting you have the right of way to finish your turn.
You do not. There is a long long line of auto vs auto liability claims, arbitration cases, and court cases that disagree with you. Usually, it is shared liability in these instances, but most of the time the person making the left turn on the red light is the majority fault. It can depend on the situation, but by far and large that is how it works. If they are making the left turn on the expiring yellow light they are almost solely at fault. You are mistaken. If driving schools are teaching it this way, they are wrong plain and simple.
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Old 11-13-2015, 09:22 AM   #13
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You actually aren't supposed to do this and it is unsafe. If you pull out into the intersection on a green light, waiting to turn left you put yourself in danger and can get into no mans land where you are either stuck in the middle of the intersection on a green light or have to turn left on a red light. When I used to do auto claims I used to get a kick out of that type of accident, they would always say the other person didn't stop for them.

So lets say you are approaching an intersection with a green solid light with two lanes in each direction going straight, and a left hand turning lane that has a solid green light as well. You decide to go out into the intersection and stop, even though there is bumper to bumper traffic going fast in the opposite direction. You sit there and sit there, no opening in sight, and then the light starts to turn yellow. Still no opening. It turns red, and now you are shit out of luck. If you would have stopped and waited back before entering the intersection you wouldn't have put yourself in this predicament. Now, you are forced to make your left turn while the light is red. And bam! You are T-boned by another vehicle. You claim the other person is solely at fault, but the reality is you are both at fault, and you are at fault more than the other guy. Not only did you run a red light, you also failed to yield while making a left hand turn.
Holy shit, are you ignorant.
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Old 11-13-2015, 10:37 AM   #14
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You actually aren't supposed to do this and it is unsafe. If you pull out into the intersection on a green light, waiting to turn left you put yourself in danger and can get into no mans land where you are either stuck in the middle of the intersection on a green light or have to turn left on a red light. When I used to do auto claims I used to get a kick out of that type of accident, they would always say the other person didn't stop for them.

So lets say you are approaching an intersection with a green solid light with two lanes in each direction going straight, and a left hand turning lane that has a solid green light as well. You decide to go out into the intersection and stop, even though there is bumper to bumper traffic going fast in the opposite direction. You sit there and sit there, no opening in sight, and then the light starts to turn yellow. Still no opening. It turns red, and now you are shit out of luck. If you would have stopped and waited back before entering the intersection you wouldn't have put yourself in this predicament. Now, you are forced to make your left turn while the light is red. And bam! You are T-boned by another vehicle. You claim the other person is solely at fault, but the reality is you are both at fault, and you are at fault more than the other guy. Not only did you run a red light, you also failed to yield while making a left hand turn.
Agreed.
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A general term for anyone found cruising in the passing (left) lane, holding up the normal flow of traffic.
Yes. If the speed limit is 65 mph, and I'm in the left lane going 72 mph. There is technically no reason you ever should need to pass me. In fact, you would be breaking the law by doing so. When I approach someone going slower than me in the left lane, you know what I do? I just pass them in the right lane, and I don't think anything of it. And my day goes on just fine. When I'm in the city driving in the left lane, I usually, you know, live over there and am expecting a left turn up ahead soon.

Usually when I'm in the left lane, I'm passing another driver, but apparently I'm not passing them as fast as the crazed lunatic behind me wants. And that is usually what you guys are bitching about anyway.

I also text while I'm driving, and I mount my phone and watch movies on long trips. Really makes it go by. Been doing it for years.

I also have no road rage issues like most of you. I don't have a personal vendetta against people who accidentally didn't see me and cut me off, or made a mistake while driving. We all make mistakes. I don't huff and puff acting all big and bad trying to ride peoples bumpers or flip them off as I go by because, that will show 'em!

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