Chiefs Chiefs Offseason Planet Evaluation: Albert Wilson - Page 3

**Rain Man** · 01-14-2018, 11:38 AM

This will be one of the more interesting evaluations. Tell me what you think about Albert Wilson.

Poll coming faster than a Chiefs exit from the playoffs.

Albert appeared in 13 games and started 7.
He recorded 42 receptions for 554 yards (13.2 ypc) and 3 TD. 0 fumbles.

He added 3 rushes for 6 yards as well.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-14-2018, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

My point was some of what decides whether he comes back is what he gets offered.

If some team is dumb enough to invest a huge contract into a fragile, 5’9 WR that’s had alligator arms for the majority if his career, so be it.

Marcus Kemp has a much higher upside, IMO.

Let him walk.

NJChiefsFan · 01-14-2018, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

If some team is dumb enough to invest a huge contract into a fragile, 5’9 WR that’s had alligator arms for the majority if his career, so be it.

Marcus Kemp has a much higher upside, IMO.

Let him walk.

That was what I was saying. I would like to have Wilson back but there is a price. As for Robinson vs. Conley I really like Conley. I think he has the higher floor, Robinson the lower floor but perhaps the higher ceiling since I think he is more athletic. A little more fluid.

DRM08 · 01-14-2018, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by hitchief

Cant afford to keep him is correct but then again he's an Andy butt kisser so theres that.

He will always drop/short arm the ball if there is any doubt of imminent contact is concerned. He will always protect himself over making a play no matter the situation, just like on the last play of the playoff game.

He will disappoint you in the coming year/s now that its Pat's team and not all Alex's fault. Be very aware!

He made a ton of plays for Mahomes in Denver. It would be foolish to get rid of him given the chemistry they have.

oldman · 01-14-2018, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

With a healthy Kelce, Conley, Hill and Hunt, Wilson's still most likely the 4th target at best, so I'd give him a 3 year, $10 million dollar deal with $3.5 million guaranteed, which is basically a 1 year, $3.5 million dollar deal.

There's no way I'd approach $5 million or more on a contract for Wilson, as he's shown to be fragile in the past.

Plus, 2017 was a contract year for him so it all could be an illusion.

I'd agree with you on this. He's just too inconsistent to increase his role or move him up the depth chart. With Kemp and maybe another (DRob or Dieter) in the wings, you'd have almost zero dead money tied up should he revert to what we've seen prior to this year.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-14-2018, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08

He made a ton of plays for Mahomes in Denver. It would be foolish to get rid of him given the chemistry they have.

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Direckshun · 01-14-2018, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

What if a team offers him $5-6 million a year?

You pay him.

**jjchieffan** · 01-14-2018, 06:41 PM

The Wilson situation reminds me of a guy that we drafted in the late rounds in 96. He was a backup guy that wasn't thought that highly of. But he, like Wilson showed steady improvement and his 4th year he took a step forward and showed promise. The Chiefs let him walk to the Saints, where he finally blossomed and became a star. I was sick when he left, but even more sick when I saw what he became. Does Wilson have the chance to be another Joe Horn? Probably not. But it would be so Chiefs for him to walk and him to bust out.

Red Dawg · 01-14-2018, 06:42 PM

Get him outta here. Dont want back.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-14-2018, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

You pay him.

No

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-14-2018, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

But it would be so Chiefs for him to walk and him to bust out.

5th year 5'9 players who've routinely had alligator arms and missed several games due to fragility don't "bust out".

Good ****ing god, people.

**jjchieffan** · 01-14-2018, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

5th year 5'9 players who've routinely had alligator arms and missed several games due to fragility don't "bust out".

Good ****ing god, people.

Lol. It is just like you to take one part of my statement to twist it. Never mind that I said probably not before I said that.

NJChiefsFan · 01-14-2018, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

You pay him.

With our cap situation? And if it means missing out on defense?

You think if Kelce, Hunt, and Hill are playing Wilson gets the stats he did with Mahomes? There may be a connection but some of you are forgetting that Wilson was getting a ton of looks just by default in that game. He was the #1 WR.

oldman · 01-14-2018, 07:27 PM

If some team offers him $5M, they have more cash than we do. We thank you for your service, Albert.

COchief · 01-14-2018, 07:46 PM

Meh, best bet is some other team overpays him and we get a comp pick. He surprised me this year and definitely has improved but I think he has hit his ceiling and will only hold up development of the more dangerous and higher potential guys like Drob/Chesson/Kemp.

I'll also openly admit I'm biased due to his fraidy cat behavior in years past and t-rex impressions in big game situations but it has been a couple years. I still wouldn't trust him, imagine Mahomie driving for the SB win next year and Wilson alligators a 3rd down pass. I'll pass unless he signs something where he is easily cuttable at anytime without a huge hit.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-14-2018, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

Lol. It is just like you to take one part of my statement to twist it. Never mind that I said probably not before I said that.

Your post was all about talking in circles.

All you needed to say was:

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

If he leaves, I hope he doesn't become Joe Horn redux

View Poll Results: Albert Wilson's Grade Card
Part 1: Grade for the 2017 Season	2	2.63%
A+	0	0%
A	4	5.26%
A-	9	11.84%
B+	21	27.63%
B	22	28.95%
B-	10	13.16%
C+	5	6.58%
C	1	1.32%
C-	0	0%
D+	0	0%
D	1	1.32%
D-	1	1.32%
F	0	0%
No grade	1	1.32%
Part 2: 2017 Performance Relative to Expectations	3	3.95%
Greatly exceeded my expectations	25	32.89%
Slightly exceeded my expectations	38	50.00%
Performed about like I expected	8	10.53%
Performed slightly worse than my expectations	1	1.32%
Performed far short of my expectations	0	0%
Part 3: Desired Role for 2018	3	3.95%
Much larger	6	7.89%
Slightly larger	24	31.58%
About the same as 2017	35	46.05%
Slightly smaller	2	2.63%
Much smaller	1	1.32%
Off the team	1	1.32%
Part 4: I think this player’s ability is …	3	3.95%
Ascending	48	63.16%
Stable	20	26.32%
Descending	1	1.32%
Part 5: The minimum I would trade this player for is a mid- …	3	3.95%
-sized bottle of Pibb Extra	2	2.63%
7th round pick	1	1.32%
6th round pick	6	7.89%
5th round pick	20	26.32%
4th round pick	18	23.68%
3rd round pick	18	23.68%
2nd round pick	3	3.95%
1st round pick	1	1.32%
A pair of 1st round picks	1	1.32%
I would not trade this player	5	6.58%
Part 6: I prefer…	2	2.63%
Cumulonimbus	34	44.74%
Cirrostratus	11	14.47%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 76. You may not vote on this poll

01-14-2018, 11:38 AM
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $2918491 VARSITY	Chiefs Offseason Planet Evaluation: Albert Wilson This will be one of the more interesting evaluations. Tell me what you think about Albert Wilson. Poll coming faster than a Chiefs exit from the playoffs. Albert appeared in 13 games and started 7. He recorded 42 receptions for 554 yards (13.2 ypc) and 3 TD. 0 fumbles. He added 3 rushes for 6 yards as well.
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01-14-2018, 06:41 PM	#37
jjchieffan Supporter Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Highlandville, MO Casino cash: $3072247	The Wilson situation reminds me of a guy that we drafted in the late rounds in 96. He was a backup guy that wasn't thought that highly of. But he, like Wilson showed steady improvement and his 4th year he took a step forward and showed promise. The Chiefs let him walk to the Saints, where he finally blossomed and became a star. I was sick when he left, but even more sick when I saw what he became. Does Wilson have the chance to be another Joe Horn? Probably not. But it would be so Chiefs for him to walk and him to bust out.
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01-14-2018, 06:42 PM	#38
Red Dawg Going home eventually Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $4512858	Get him outta here. Dont want back. __________________ If you're not first you're last!
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01-14-2018, 07:27 PM	#43
oldman Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North by Northwest Casino cash: $5836784	If some team offers him $5M, they have more cash than we do. We thank you for your service, Albert.
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01-14-2018, 07:46 PM	#44
COchief Blame it on the Henne Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Donk-town Casino cash: $6743231	Meh, best bet is some other team overpays him and we get a comp pick. He surprised me this year and definitely has improved but I think he has hit his ceiling and will only hold up development of the more dangerous and higher potential guys like Drob/Chesson/Kemp. I'll also openly admit I'm biased due to his fraidy cat behavior in years past and t-rex impressions in big game situations but it has been a couple years. I still wouldn't trust him, imagine Mahomie driving for the SB win next year and Wilson alligators a 3rd down pass. I'll pass unless he signs something where he is easily cuttable at anytime without a huge hit.
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