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09-05-2019, 11:27 AM | #31 |
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I'm using that example only to say when multiple people corroborate the same story, where there's smoke there's fire. Again, I don't think he should be banned let alone arrested. But do I get why people boycott him for being a total creep? Should his reputation be smeared? In this case, I get it.
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09-05-2019, 11:27 AM | #32 | |
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There's this tiny group of twitterati clowns who are hyper offended in their wokeness, but the media (including critics) are just dominated by ideology. They can't set it aside and just enjoy something. Instead of treating them like the tiny hyper sensitive minority they are, the media constantly puts these ridiculous narratives front and center. I don't personally KNOW anyone, including my many progressive friends, who disliked this special. The outrage is entirely created by media and the usual suspects on twitter. It's fake news. The truth is that it was pretty much universally enjoyed. Yet there were dozens of articles condemning it for 'woke' reasons within a day of it's release. The joke police can go **** themselves. XD |
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09-05-2019, 12:18 PM | #33 | |
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Anyway, whatever your interpretation of CK's events, here's what at least two female comedians admitted to doing, and what CK himself has admitted to happening: He invited a female comedic duo into his place after a show, and they said yes because they admire his work and thought there was nothing suggestive about the suggestion. That it would in fact be socializing with a famous peer. At some point, he whips out his penis without anything close to consent and masturbates in front of them. This was not invited in any way beforehand, and not welcomed in any way during the experience. They were disturbed and potentially scared -- the scared part is unclear, I don't remember if they said that. I believe they said they dropped out of comedy because of that experience. So there's an argument I saw a lot on here on ChiefsPlanet that, unbelievably, pops up in Dave Chappelle's routine: "so, what, CK whips out his penis and masturbates and they didn't run to the door?" That just shows an epic ignorance that dumb men have who have never been sexually assaulted. If you are a woman, and a man whips his penis out without welcome, it is terrifying. It is completely unclear what the man intends or what he is capable of doing. But he's bigger than you, and he's stronger than you. And there is no right response to that. Running to the door and potentially risking him chasing you is an option. So is staying calm and waiting the experience out, which is what they did. Now Dave ****ing Chappelle is making their experience even more horrific by saying "c'mon, they didn't run, we didn't have to make their harassment sound worse than it was?" Just a lazy, ignorant argument that you don't expect from Chappelle. You expect it from clueless male misogynists on an internet message board. |
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09-05-2019, 02:10 PM | #34 | |
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Louey CK is apparently a very weird and creepy dude. But I agree with the poster who said if we place what Louey CK did in the same box as other sexual assaults it marginalizes those experiences. Huge difference between a rape and some guy jerking it.
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09-05-2019, 02:15 PM | #35 |
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Uhhhh no. If the woman did that and the man did not invite her to and did not welcome her and is offended by it, yeah. It's wrong. Less people would probably be upset about it, because there's not a millenia-old precedent of women ensnaring men and subjecting them to abuse against their will, but if that's what happened, then that's totally wrong. Who would even argue that?
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09-05-2019, 02:28 PM | #36 | |
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What Louey CK did was wrong, but how egregious something is is very important. Everything in life is not black or white, even though we try to make it out to be like that. There are shades and degrees of good and bad. Some things are much worse than others. I think Joe Rogan had a bit that summed it up pretty well quite a bit in his "Dude, You're going to be Batman" part on Triggered.
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