Andy, please let Mahomes be Mahomes

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

It’s like you’ve never watched him play until two weeks ago.

Actually just the opposite. Since the SB last season teams have started taking away the deep ball and daring Patrick to check down and daring Andy to run the ball. Thus far we are barely 1 game over .500 in that ordeal.

[Wallcrawler]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Actually just the opposite. Since the SB last season teams have started taking away the deep ball and daring Patrick to check down and daring Andy to run the ball. Thus far we are barely 1 game over .500 in that ordeal.

I like how you conveniently omitted the dumpster fire of a defense we've fielded until two weeks ago.

When every time you take the field you're down 7 more points, it tends to change how decisions get made.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Actually just the opposite. Since the SB last season teams have started taking away the deep ball and daring Patrick to check down and daring Andy to run the ball. Thus far we are barely 1 game over .500 in that ordeal.

I’m not sure what those pieces of trivia have to do with you having no idea what you were watching with Mahomes the last three seasons.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

Hey guys, remember this?

Tom Brady was done. Staring down receivers in Arians offense. The Bucs were 7-5, a complete mess, and Brady was declined and overmatched in the needs of his new offense.

All of this is to say that yes, even the best of quarterbacks go through stretches like this. Patrick and Andy are going to figure this out, everything in their history and pedigree suggest they will. For the start we've had to the season, 5-4 seems awfully okay considering the unexpected offensive and defensive problems we've had to start the season.

I don't know how much truth there was to it, but the narrative at the time was the Bucs hadn't completely bought into the offense at that point of the season, and what they did in the SB was basically the final product of protecting Brady with short dump-offs and what not.

And yeah, the only win they could hang their hat on all season was beating the Packers... swept by the Saints and one game was 38-3 (sound familiar?), lost to the Rams, lost to the Chiefs when it was 21-0 in the first quarter.

There is still plenty of time and the AFC in particular looks like a complete shitshow.... as much as I hated the decades of "just get into the playoffs and anything can happen!!!", this is actually a team that could validate that theory.

[ThyKingdomCome15]

It's a cocktail of little things that haven't gone away. The light will come on. The defense has carried us the last two games. It also Andy not putting our best RB out there and getting to cute on short yardage downs.

[The Franchise]

Nobody outside of Kelce and Hill are getting open either.

[493rd]

Why do some get so offended when people criticize Mahomes? He’s playing shitty right now and he’s the first to admit it. Nobody knows what the issue is, but he needs to be better, much better. With his future cap hit he can’t be what he is right now. I think he’ll be better, not sure when.

[dallaschiefsfan]

Mahomes was doing just fine today until Niang went down. Things changed when Wylie went in.

[ThyKingdomCome15]

Originally Posted by dallaschiefsfan

Mahomes was doing just fine today until Niang went down. Things changed when Wylie went in.

Niang went down? Oh snap!

[ChiefsCountry]

Meh. He hits one of those deep balls and everybody is deep throating the offense again.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Meh. He hits one of those deep balls and everybody is deep throating the offense again.

Yeah well he hasn't hit a deep ball since the Washington game. Hasn't even come close.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Meh. He hits one of those deep balls and everybody is deep throating the offense again.

So, if he played better, people would be saying better things?

I do think a lot of people are looking for shreds of optimism, when a couple of throws at the end of a game has people thinking we're seeing the "old" (you know, 5-8 weeks ago) Mahomes.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Meh. He hits one of those deep balls and everybody is deep throating the offense again.

Problem is there was only one of those deep balls that had more than a hope and a prayer of being completed.

He's too in love with hitting the deep ball. He got addicted to it to start his career and defenses got tired of it. Now he's looking right through a wide open Kelce to throw 50 yards down field to a double covered Hardman of all receivers.

[dirk digler]

Was arguing this very point in the other Mahomes thread. I encourage anyone to go to youtube and look at his TD's passes last year. Alot of his "pocket" passes were him drifting 10 yds + back and throwing it. We also did alot of designed roll outs down in the red zone.

Not sure if the coaches or Mahomes himself, the tackles or defenses have adjusted and are playing him that way to take away that part of his game. But being a traditional pocket QB isn't his game.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Was arguing this very point in the other Mahomes thread. I encourage anyone to go to youtube and look at his TD's passes last year. Alot of his "pocket" passes were him drifting 10 yds + back and throwing it. We also did alot of designed roll outs down in the red zone.

Not sure if the coaches or Mahomes himself, the tackles or defenses have adjusted and are playing him that way to take away that part of his game. But being a traditional pocket QB isn't his game.

That doesn’t work unless the offense is effective in rhythm and threatening the whole field at all times. That’s partly why the rolling out isn’t working right now. He’s doing it before giving the play a chance to develop.