The Evolution of the Planet

[BIG_DADDY]

I think to understand the nature of the problem that exists here today it is important to reflect on how we arrived here. For those that don’t know, ChiefsPlanet was created to get around the vast restrictions placed on posters in KC Star. It was a huge success right off the bat and we were rolling. IMO those first months we ended up with a lot of really great posters and only a couple bad ones. As time went on CP has attracted more and more people who love not having restrictions and unlimited subjects to discuss which was great other than the fact that that many thought those threads were polluting the forum with people arguing all the time over subjects that didn’t even involve football. I posted a poll asking the membership if they wanted another forum for off topics and it passed by a landslide and the people who run this BB were gracious enough to create it and DC was born.

That has worked for a long time now with this almost no holds barred format. Once again this type of forum has been attractive to people who love the open debate that can take place here but unfortunately over many years it has attracted more and more trolls who like using the structure here to do nothing more than try to get under posters skin and will do anything in order to do that. It’s also allowed posters like frazod to thrive here being the poster child of bad psychology. Talk about no boundaries with a strong desire to bust in others and dump. This has attracted more in the like, can anyone say KCN? The trolls have grown as well in this forum in a kind of perfect storm way. What we have today is a forum saturated with trolls and posters with the psychology of a 13 year old psychopathic girl on her first period. IMO this is costing us many potential good posters who would make this a better place to come to and has also seen us lose many quality long term posters. To complicate matters the moderators that reside here are fine with posters posting anything they want about you and your family members short of a racist remark heaven forbid just as long as you don’t do it to them which is now creating two different cultures that exist within the planet. If they think that it is hostile now they haven’t seen anything yet should this persist.

IMO at this point nothing short of a cleansing designed to rid the planet of trolls and bloody vaginas that have no control is exactly what this place needs to regain its former greatness. There was a time when I posted a thread about a family member and their battle with cancer and asked for prayers and support. Today there is no chance of me doing something like that here as I have no desire to see somebody post the nastiest thing they can think of at that point. For the old timers it should be easy to see the huge difference in where we were and where we are now. My 2 cents.

[bevischief]

Originally Posted by luv

This. Is banning obvious trolls the same as being a dictatorship? We don't filter language for the most part, and everyone is good if they talk sports. The trolls are what created the herd mentality that's nearly put an end to rational discussion.

I know part of the appeal of this site is that we don't weed out football, but perhaps it's time to start a non-sports forum that is not moderated, putting DC, pictures, and media as a subforum of that. Then having a sports forum that is somewhat moderated.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

He claimed that there are people that STILL feel this way.

And there are I have seen them post that shit as well. There will be some that want to bring him in if he gets cut as well.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Mosbonian

I'll use my analogy again....when we all first got here, we didn't tolerate shitty behavior, like "pissing on the pool table". Instead of everyone saying "we have to tolerate this bad behavior" because it's free speech or someone egged the ingrate along by lauging and saying he's just yanking your chain, (or he didn't mean anything behind it) or some other enabling excuse.

We have to stop acting like it's ok to have REALLY RUDE behavior because they will grow out of it, or that's just the way the new generation is. Screw bad behavior, vitriolic attacks and just plain shitty personalities...if you can't have a decent civilized discussion then GTFO.

Trolls used to have to work a lot harder if they wanted to stick around. A la Tom Cash.

I hesitate to point someone out but the way that gochiefs has not only been able to remain, but somehow become a central figure here, has never been something that I've understood.

It's like we have a bizarre duality of heavy-handed yet far too lenient moderation.

[J Diddy]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Trolls used to have to work a lot harder if they wanted to stick around. A la Tom Cash.

I hesitate to point someone out but the way that gochiefs has not only been able to remain, but somehow become a central figure here, has never been something that I've understood.

It's like we have a bizarre duality of heavy-handed yet far too lenient moderation.

I think it's assumed that once banned they will just come back. So why deal with it?

Not to mention that anytime someone is banned there is an 8000 post thread, inquiries, mock trials and pickle jokes.

Why bother?

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by J Diddy

I think it's assumed that once banned they will just come back. So why deal with it?

Not to mention that anytime someone is banned there is an 8000 post thread, inquiries, mock trials and pickle jokes.

Why bother?

Yet hootie was banned, was he not?

[KC native]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

You can't possibly know that, with a 2009 start date.

I started lurking in 07. My previous account was lost in the internet ether so I started this one in 09.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Race Card native

I started lurking in 07. My previous account was lost in the internet ether so I started this one in 09.

Again, you can't possibly know that with an '07 start date. You're discounting, literally, half of the board's existence.

[Mosbonian]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Trolls used to have to work a lot harder if they wanted to stick around. A la Tom Cash.

I hesitate to point someone out but the way that gochiefs has not only been able to remain, but somehow become a central figure here, has never been something that I've understood.

It's like we have a bizarre duality of heavy-handed yet far too lenient moderation.

I agree with the above....how he has remained here from his early days mystifies me still. He is actually bordering on that same type of behavior this year with his hate for Alex Smith.

[J Diddy]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Yet hootie was banned, was he not?

Yeah, but he came back. When he started rubbing Phil's nose in it he got rebanned. Virtually every long standing member has came back, got outed and if they didn't go off the deep end, were allowed to stay.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Trolls used to have to work a lot harder if they wanted to stick around. A la Tom Cash.

I hesitate to point someone out but the way that gochiefs has not only been able to remain, but somehow become a central figure here, has never been something that I've understood.

It's like we have a bizarre duality of heavy-handed yet far too lenient moderation.

Clay was willing to spend more time getting back on than all the mods combined keeping him out.

[jettio]

The board has changed for the worse.

My brother, DanT, was part of things for the KC Star and Pigskin Park and birth of the planet which was all before he invited me to this board in 2002.

I do not invite inviting people to this board because we have thread titles that stick on the front page that uses foul language to insult the Chiefs QB. That reflects very poorly on this community. Why would any Chiefs player even want to check this place out if they visited the site and saw that thread title on the front page?

Too many posters want attention and do not even think about whether or not this board is a place where well-adjusted Chiefs fans would want to join and invite their friends to join.

We should try to be a place where people that are not emotionally disturbed would want to invite friends of theirs who are also not emotionally disturbed?

We should also be a place where a Chiefs player could visit and think that at least some of the members have self-respect and are not emotionally disturbed.

Can that be our new motto?

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by J Diddy

Yeah, but he came back. When he started rubbing Phil's nose in it he got rebanned. Virtually every long standing member has came back, got outed and if they didn't go off the deep end, were allowed to stay.

I'd be pretty surprised if he's not at least lurking even now. My guess is he's even posting under some n00b username.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Yet hootie was banned, was he not?

And he's still posting, thanks to a proxy IP address.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Yet hootie was banned, was he not?

I don't get that. Missed it all I guess.

[J Diddy]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I'd be pretty surprised if he's not at least lurking even now. My guess is he's even posting under some n00b username.

Hell, he's probably got a spare mult that he's been using for years on the down low. Either way I'm sure he's at least lurking.