Let's talk about fair and consistent moderation

[Fire Me Boy!]

I'd like to have an open and honest conversation. I hope you all know me well enough to know I don't mean any ill will. But I know this will likely not go over well.

We need documentation of offenses and punishments. It seems all too often that fairness and rationality is thrown out the window in favor of emotion. Without documenting offenses and punishment, there is no guideline for how to dole out action. It begs for mods to take whatever action they feel at the time, which could range from nothing to full bans. Further, it opens the door wide for mods to rationalize action or non-action. This can be a living document that grows or shrinks with time.

We have too many instances of punishment being made up on the spot. This is not OK. There is no fair and consistent moderation on this board.

The unfair treatment in this place is ridiculous. Deberg gets thumped for being annoying. Inmem gets put on Miserable User for being annoying. Dozens of other users remain untouched. Hootie gets chance after chance after chance. Joey: chance after chance after chance. Inmem: ****ed without warning. Deberg loses thread starting privileges without warning because other posters are bitching.

If we remove users that are annoying, many users would be gone. If we ban people because they post a lot, I can think of dozens of users that would have been gone years ago. Trolls? Please. Unpopular opinions? GTFO.

DC is a freakin' cesspool of rudeness, meanness, and bigotry, and not a single thing happens to anyone in there. Ever. No action taken. We all know that if DC didn't exist, all of that shit would spill into the main forum. It's just an example because it does occasionally spill over here.

Mods occasionally troll certain users (name changes, rep changes, etc.). I’m not trying to take the fun away; as long as it’s temporary, no big deal. It shouldn’t be long-term. Frazod, while questionably batchit crazy, is a good example of this.

I know of one mod who’s given up on trying to do any discipline due to other mods complaining, or members threatening to revolt. Moderation seems based on whichever mod gets annoyed first. This is not a good way to moderate a board.

Do we need some fresh blood? Maybe some mods that cannot control themselves need to fall on the sword and step down. Maybe a mod election would be good.

tl;dr: Moderation here is BS. Let’s find a way to make it right.

[Dayze]

Originally Posted by Chromatic

Reminds me of an old dude/mechanic seeing what you're bringing in...."....what is that.....a Plymouth.....'88, or '89"?

[Bufkin]

I'm still trying to decide if I'm on the Miserable User list or if the servers have been that shitty lately.

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!

We have too many instances of punishment being made up on the spot. This is not OK. There is no fair and consistent moderation on this board.

There never has been. It's always been based around a pissing match with a moderator or causing people to annoy the mods enough to get them to do what they want to stop the whining.

DC is a freakin' cesspool of rudeness, meanness, and bigotry, and not a single thing happens to anyone in there. Ever. No action taken. We all know that if DC didn't exist, all of that shit would spill into the main forum. It's just an example because it does occasionally spill over here.

I reject categorically the notion that the Lounge is any better. In fact, I think DC is probably marginally more civil than the Lounge is.

CP has gotten to where the quality of the board has been seriously degraded by attention whores and worthless posters run wild. But this is not "spilling over" from DC. DC needs to exist because that stuff is off topic, not because the lounge is better. Read any Alex smith thread.

Moderation seems based on whichever mod gets annoyed first. This is not a good way to moderate a board.

It's always been made up on the spot and arbitrary, despite rules here and there, nothing has really changed except the effect has accumulated.

[Fire Me Boy!]

Originally Posted by Brock

OP is full of shit. Hootie never deserved to be banned in the first place. That was just phobia acting like an asshole bully, which happened over and over again with different posters.

This actually seems to support my claim. You say I'm FOS, then detail one specific mod who rules arbitrarily. Except phobia isn't the only mod that does this.

[rico]

Originally Posted by Baconeater

Why would anyone want him to be?

Because he had some entertaining moments.

[Boiled Chicken]

I miss Fax

[Buehler445]

Is this thread worth reading?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Bufkin

I'm still trying to decide if I'm on the Miserable User list or if the servers have been that shitty lately.

This.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Boiled Chicken

I miss Fax

Nobody banned FAX, and I'll tell you what:

Even after Mr. Fax decided that he didn't like me, I still treated him with respect and never pushed his buttons personally.

Some people are just never satisfied.

And frankly, I didn't really find the sonofabitch all that goddamned funny or interesting for that matter.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by Bufkin

I'm still trying to decide if I'm on the Miserable User list or if the servers have been that shitty lately.

Don't say it out loud, because it will be a self-fulling prophecy.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by rico

So is that Frankie dude ever going to be unbanned?

He'll stay permabanned, because of the magic words involving legal action.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Williams

This.

I just went in and checked and neither of you are on MU.