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Old 02-02-2012, 07:18 PM  
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Old 03-10-2012, 09:22 PM   #4486
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Seriously? What Haith did at Mizzou this year was clearly superior to what Self did given the circumstances. But whatever, I am pretty sure that Haith not winning it had nothing to do with Mizzou leaving and hurt feelings.
Finishing second is clearly superior to winning the league by 2 games?
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Old 03-10-2012, 09:23 PM   #4487
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So, just give COY to every conference regular season champion then? No point in even voting.
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Old 03-10-2012, 09:23 PM   #4488
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In short, yeah, Haith got screwed for COTY, but who gives a shit?

I doubt he does.
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Old 03-10-2012, 09:24 PM   #4489
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Finishing second is clearly superior to winning the league by 2 games?
Yeah, when you finished second with 7 scholarship players and one of your best inside guys hurt for the season and with a new coach. And beat the conference winners and damn near beat them twice.
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Old 03-10-2012, 09:24 PM   #4490
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In short, yeah, Haith got screwed for COTY, but who gives a shit?

I doubt he does.
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Old 03-10-2012, 09:24 PM   #4491
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Finishing second is clearly superior to winning the league by 2 games?
Did Tom Coughlin win COY last year when the NYG won the SB? They were best after it was all said and done? Just because you win the league does not mean you were the best coach.
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Old 03-10-2012, 09:25 PM   #4492
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I agree, I doubt Haith gives a **** but to put the season in context, KU won the conference by 1 overtime point. Hardly a dominant performance but winner nonetheless.
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Old 03-10-2012, 09:26 PM   #4493
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So, just give COY to every conference regular season champion then? No point in even voting.
We'll just ignore that KU lost like 70 percent of their scoring from last year and still came back and won the league again.
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Old 03-10-2012, 09:28 PM   #4494
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We'll just ignore that KU lost like 70 percent of their scoring from last year and still came back and won the league again.
And were picked out of the gate to win the conference. Self did what was expected and barely. That to me does not make coach of the year. Coach of the Year, again imo, **** your link bullshit, should go to a coach that exceeded expectations in a large way.
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Old 03-10-2012, 09:29 PM   #4495
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We'll just ignore that KU lost like 70 percent of their scoring from last year and still came back and won the league again.
That's life as a major college basketball team. Highly recruited guys stepped up thier game as they matured and playing time opened up. Shocking.
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Old 03-10-2012, 09:30 PM   #4496
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And were picked out of the gate to win the conference. Self did what was expected and barely. That to me does not make coach of the year. Coach of the Year, again imo, **** your link bullshit, should go to a coach that exceeded expectations in a large way.

Ok then, by your logic, the runaway winner of COY should be Hoiburg. They were picked to finish 8th and finished T3(net of 5 spots). Missouri was picked to finish 4th and finished 2nd(net of 2 spots). Looks like ISU exceeded more expectations.
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Ok then, by your logic, the runaway winner of COY should be Hoiburg. They were picked to finish 8th and finished T3(net of 5 spots). Missouri was picked to finish 4th and finished 2nd(net of 2 spots). Looks like ISU exceeded more expectations.
I could buy that easier than I can Self.
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Ok then, by your logic, the runaway winner of COY should be Hoiburg. They were picked to finish 8th and finished T3(net of 5 spots). Missouri was picked to finish 4th and finished 2nd(net of 2 spots). Looks like ISU exceeded more expectations.
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And were picked out of the gate to win the conference. Self did what was expected and barely. That to me does not make coach of the year. Coach of the Year, again imo, **** your link bullshit, should go to a coach that exceeded expectations in a large way.
Or did more with less as I stated to him earlier. No one thought Mizzou would

1. Win the Big XII tournament

2. Be ranked in the top 5

3. Be competing for a #1 seed

4. Beat KU once and come within 1 point of sweeping them

This was all BEFORE Bowers went down.After many questioned whether Mizzou would even make the tournament.

But Haith was not COY material.
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Why does anybody care about the COY award anyway? It's even more forgettable than the POY award.

Arguments can be made for all three coaches, there is no one right answer. Heck, I could probably make an argument for Frank Martin too after losing Pullen and getting his team to the tournament with that group.
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