Official KCChiefs.com announcement: New coaches

[Christofire]

(Must not ... make ... shanahan ... joke ...) Ah, what the hell -- I can't resist. THE DEALS ARE DONE!!

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/02...g_staff_moves/

Kansas City Chiefs Announce Coaching Staff Moves
Feb 17, 2009, 5:17:14 PM

The Kansas City Chiefs announced on Tuesday that the club has made several additions to head coach Todd Haley’s coaching staff. The following coaches have been retained by the Chiefs: Bob Bicknell, Joe D’Alessandris, Chan Gailey, Tim Krumrie, Brent Salazar and Cedric Smith. The following assistant coaches are joining the Chiefs staff:

Joel Collier – Collier owns 17 seasons of experience coaching in the professional ranks. He most recently enjoyed a three-year stint with New England (2005-07). Prior to joining the Patriots, he spent 11 seasons with Miami (’94-04). Collier served his first tour of duty with New England from ‘91-93, spending time on the coaching staff and as a pro scout. He began his NFL career as an offensive assistant with Tampa Bay (’90) after serving as a graduate assistant at Syracuse (’88-89).

Gary Gibbs – A 29-year coaching veteran, Gibbs most recently served a three-year stint as defensive coordinator with New Orleans (2006-08). He entered the NFL ranks as linebackers coach with Dallas (2002-05). Gibbs broke into the coaching profession at his alma mater, the University of Oklahoma, as a graduate assistant in ‘75 and was eventually promoted to linebackers coach (’78-80), defensive coordinator (’81-88) and head coach (’89-94) He also served as defensive coordinator at Georgia (2000) and LSU (2001).

Steve Hoffman – Hoffman owns 19 years of NFL coaching experience. He most recently spent a two-year tour with Miami as kicking coach (2008) and assistant special teams coach (2007). He served as assistant special teams coach with the Atlanta (2006) after a 16-year association with Dallas (’89-04), where he served as kicking coach (’89-98) and kicking/defensive quality control coach (’99-04). He began his coaching career at the University of Miami (’85-87).

Bill Muir – Muir is a veteran of 31 NFL seasons and owns a total of 44 seasons of coaching experience. He most recently served as the offensive coordinator/offensive line coach for Tampa Bay (2002-08). He has also enjoyed NFL coaching stops with the N.Y. Jets (’95-01), Philadelphia (’92-94), Indianapolis (’89-91), Detroit (’85-88) and New England (’82-84). He began his NFL career in the player personnel department with Tampa Bay (’78-81). He coached collegiately at SMU (’76-77), Idaho State (’72-73), Rhode Island (’70-71), Delaware Valley (’66-67) and Susquehanna (’65). The Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania native also coached professionally for Houston/Shreveport (’74-75) of the World Football League.

Clancy Pendergast – Pendergast owns 14 seasons of experience in the NFL coaching ranks. He spent the past five campaigns as a defensive coordinator with Arizona (2004-08). Prior to guiding the Cardinals defensive unit, Pendergast spent one season with Cleveland (2003) after enjoying a seven-year tenure with Dallas (’96-02). He began his NFL coaching career with Houston (’95). He began his coaching career in the collegiate ranks as a graduate assistant with Mississippi State (’91) and enjoyed stops at Southern California (’92), Oklahoma (’93-94) and Alabama-Birmingham (’95). Pendergast graduated from the University of Arizona in ‘90.

Pat Perles – Perles owns 21 years of coaching experience, including two years in the NFL. He spent the previous six seasons at North Dakota State (2003-08), including the final four campaigns as the offensive coordinator. Perles previously served as the offensive line coach at his alma mater of Michigan State (2000-02). He spent six seasons in the Canadian Football League with Hamilton (’98-99), Winnipeg (’97) and Saskatchewan (’94-96). He began his NFL coaching career with the L.A. Rams (’92-93) after working as the defensive line coach for three years with Toledo (’89-91).

Dedric Ward – Ward spent the past two seasons as a member of Arizona Cardinals offensive coaching staff along with current Chiefs head coach Todd Haley. In 2007, Ward served as a quality control coach, working intensely with the Cardinals wide receivers. In 2008, the Cedar Rapids, Iowa native entered his second season as a quality control coach, working closely with the club’s running backs. Ward began his coaching career as wide receivers coach at Missouri State University in 2006.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by tk13

Eh, you can't let this stuff get to you. A lot of people on here are idiots.

I think the Krumrie thing is very strange, the rest of it not so much. We're in the Parcells tree now, and this is how they do things. Anybody surprised that all these guys have some kind of tie to Parcells/Pioli/Haley is living under a rock. They'd take on somebody with a less impressive resume that they "trust" to be part of the family over someone with a better resume who might not fit in with the team they're trying to build.

I don't know what the issue is. Every coach in the NFL brings in guys that they feel comfortable with. Haley recommended his guys, but do people really think that Pioli didn't do his due diligence on the guys Haley recommended? Come on.

The worst part is, that people are so hung up on guys we are hiring to be positions coaches because of the work that they did as coordinators. Pendergast and Gibbs were so-so coordinators. But they were excellent positions coaches and they were groomed by Parcells himself. They may not know how to call plays, but I guaran****ingtee you that this defense is going to be taught to be tough as nails.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don't know what the issue is. Every coach in the NFL brings in guys that they feel comfortable with. Haley recommended his guys, but do people really think that Pioli didn't do his due diligence on the guys Haley recommended? Come on.

The worst part is, that people are so hung up on guys we are hiring to be positions coaches because of the work that they did as coordinators. Pendergast and Gibbs were so-so coordinators. But they were excellent positions coaches and they were groomed by Parcells himself. They may not know how to call plays, but I guaran****ingtee you that this defense is going to be taught to be tough as nails.

One more time!

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins
As I said in the other thread, this is strike one.

I'm with you bro; this looks like total shit. But you know what? I firmly believe these hires are a MAJOR case of "getting to the party too late".

We HAVE to staff, there's just no getting around it. That said, I'd be VERY surprised if ANY of these guys have more than a 1-year contract.

We know we're not going to the playoffs, but it's a drag to think that our players won't be getting the best the coaching-poole has to offer. I guarantee you that barring an improvement miracle; most of these guys will be replaced for the 2010 season.

My first thought out the door today( ****in' football junkie )was that because of Herm's suckage and the hiring of a whole new house, my original time-table for a playoff run in 2010 was going to have to be bumped-up a year to 2011.
Them's the breaks I guess!

[Chieftain58]

good.. I like Krummy..

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

One more time!

Quote:


I'm with you bro; this looks like total shit. But you know what? I firmly believe these hires are a MAJOR case of "getting to the party too late".

We HAVE to staff, there's just no getting around it. That said, I'd be VERY surprised if ANY of these guys have more than a 1-year contract.

We know we're not going to the playoffs, but it's a drag to think that our players won't be getting the best the coaching-poole has to offer. I guarantee you that barring an improvement miracle; most of these guys will be replaced for the 2010 season.

My first thought out the door today( ****in' football junkie )was that because of Herm's suckage and the hiring of a whole new house, my original time-table for a playoff run in 2010 was going to have to be bumped-up a year to 2011.
Them's the breaks I guess!

I doubt any of these coaches are brought here for one-year gigs. What might be entirely possible is that the Chiefs don't have a defensive coordinator but one defensive assistant who maybe coordinates the defense for one season until they can hire one next season. After that, I would think that guy would stay on the team in some capacity.

I don't see any of these as panic hires. They're all guys picked straight from the Parcells tree. As positions coaches, these guys are fine. Now, if a guy like Pendergast or Gibbs is expected to be a long-term solution at DC, then I might be concerned. But I don't think either one is that. And as positions coaches, I don't see what people are complaining about--these are guys with tremendous experience, a good coaching tree, who will coach hard-nose defense to this team.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Chieftain58

good.. I like Krummy..

Oooh, do tell!

Is it his bombastic gasbaggery or sterling, Pro Bowl results that give you morning wood?!

Yay!!!!

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by RedBull

Im not asking for drama I want to delete my account for good. I just want to know how and I was hoping that wouldnt be too much to ask.

I believe that the tradition around here is to pillory someone when they ask to delete their account, unless they are stevieray.

[ChiefsCountry]

So RedBull is gone, good he is a dumb idiot anyways.

[bigbucks24]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Steve Hoffman is a hell of a special teams coach. That is a darn good move.

Has he ever been a Special Teams Coach? He was an Assistant a couple of times. What makes you say this?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I doubt any of these coaches are brought here for one-year gigs. What might be entirely possible is that the Chiefs don't have a defensive coordinator but one defensive assistant who maybe coordinates the defense for one season until they can hire one next season. After that, I would think that guy would stay on the team in some capacity.

I don't see any of these as panic hires. They're all guys picked straight from the Parcells tree. As positions coaches, these guys are fine. Now, if a guy like Pendergast or Gibbs is expected to be a long-term solution at DC, then I might be concerned. But I don't think either one is that. And as positions coaches, I don't see what people are complaining about--these are guys with tremendous experience, a good coaching tree, who will coach hard-nose defense to this team.

I'm willing to somewhat embrace the old philosophy of "right guy, right system", but Jesus H. Christ; some of these resume's don't inspire the level of confidence that they should for a team that just cleaned house and committed itself to a Higher Degree Of Football Badassness.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I believe that the tradition around here is to pillory someone when they ask to delete their account, unless they are stevieray.

Hamas, I've marginally listened to the chuck and puke of the masses. Now, give Daddy the lowdown; just what the **** are we looking at here?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

Hamas, I've marginally listened to the chuck and puke of the masses. Now, give Daddy the lowdown; just what the **** are we looking at here?

With these hires?

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by bigbucks24

Has he ever been a Special Teams Coach? He was an Assistant a couple of times. What makes you say this?

Dallas went through kickers like most people do underwear during the 90's and he kept cranking out good ones.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

With these hires?

Yeah. We don't know who is going to be assigned to what yet, so a complete breakdown of every hire makes no sense.

That said, if you had to give a brief working of "greatness to suckage" in the whole mess, where would you put who, and who should just hit the road?

I'm in no hurry, so think and take your time over a period of days if necessary.

Love the Rollins in your sig. DO IT!

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I'd imagine that you'll see the following:

Gibbs will be the linebackers coach. Given that LBs were his history, you'd expect that he would have presided over some that were at least decent, but there really aren't any standouts from his stint in either Dallas or New Orleans. With that being said, he's worked in both the 3-4 and 4-3, but seems more of a 4-3 guy.

He can't be any worse than Gunther, but that doesn't mean that he's good.

Collier got shitcanned by the Patriots following a year in which they had an undefeated regular season. He didn't get hired anywhere last year, and it's not like he was making a killing as a secondary coach. His unit was by far the weakest link of the entire team (the secondary). Granted, he never had great talent to work with, but he did have Asante Samuel and Rodney Harrison and a great front 7 to take the pressure of off him, but those Pats secondaries were mediocre at best.

I didn't know much about Steve Hoffman, but Chiefs Country says he's a good coach, and he's as reputable of a source as there is here. Dan Carpenter had a great rookie year under him. I don't really know how good their coverage units were, but coming from Prieffer, anything is an improvement.

Muir seems like a Dick Curl hire to me. Look at the string of terrible offenses that guy has been associated with. hHe looks like a shit hire. Some of the teams he has worked for have been all-time bad. TB couldn't run or pass block worth a damn under him. Bicknell is the OL coach. I just hope they don't peg this asshat to be the QB coach.

I outlined my problems with Pendergast earlier. Suffice it to say, the guy has one of the 10 most talented rosters in the league on the defensive side of the ball and during the last four years has presided over Ds that have never finished higher than 26th in points allowed. That's an abomination.

Perles may be either the TE or RB coach, because it seems like Ward will do the WR's, based on his past history.

I can't for the life of me understand why we kept the strength and conditioning staff. It could have just been Herm's practices, but there was a point last year where we would have 6-8 guys a week hobbled with soft tissue strains. That is something that stems directly from poor conditioning. That's unacceptable at the high school level, let alone the pros.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I'd imagine that you'll see the following:

Repost, yes? Or are you just that fast?

Gibbs will be the linebackers coach. Given that LBs were his history, you'd expect that he would have presided over some that were at least decent, but there really aren't any standouts from his stint in either Dallas or New Orleans. With that being said, he's worked in both the 3-4 and 4-3, but seems more of a 4-3 guy.

Okay, so 50/50 on Gibbs.

He can't be any worse than Gunther, but that doesn't mean that he's good.

Collier got shitcanned by the Patriots following a year in which they had an undefeated regular season. He didn't get hired anywhere last year, and it's not like he was making a killing as a secondary coach. His unit was by far the weakest link of the entire team (the secondary). Granted, he never had great talent to work with, but he did have Asante Samuel and Rodney Harrison and a great front 7 to take the pressure of off him, but those Pats secondaries were mediocre at best.

This one kicks my ass. Our secondary, as it stands, are the future leaders of this defense. Now I realize that a different system could be just the ticket for all three guys; the talent is that deep. That said, it sure seems like a poor position coach-wise to "cheap out" on.
On the other hand, after watching reruns of 'Hard Knocks', I'm not so sure our "Original Gibbs" was such the hot shit either; he made some questionable talent assessments to say the least.

I didn't know much about Steve Hoffman, but Chiefs Country says he's a good coach, and he's as reputable of a source as there is here. Dan Carpenter had a great rookie year under him. I don't really know how good their coverage units were, but coming from Prieffer, anything is an improvement.

Not ready to comment here.

Muir seems like a Dick Curl hire to me. Look at the string of terrible offenses that guy has been associated with. He looks like a shit hire. Some of the teams he has worked for have been all-time bad. TB couldn't run or pass block worth a damn under him. Bicknell is the OL coach. I just hope they don't peg this asshat to be the QB coach.

Not ready to comment here.

I outlined my problems with Pendergast earlier. Suffice it to say, the guy has one of the 10 most talented rosters in the league on the defensive side of the ball and during the last four years has presided over Ds that have never finished higher than 26th in points allowed. That's an abomination.

Yep; he just slid and slid down the rankings, thus his firing.

Perles may be either the TE or RB coach, because it seems like Ward will do the WR's, based on his past history.

Not ready to comment here.

I can't for the life of me understand why we kept the strength and conditioning staff. It could have just been Herm's practices, but there was a point last year where we would have 6-8 guys a week hobbled with soft tissue strains. That is something that stems directly from poor conditioning. That's unacceptable at the high school level, let alone the pros.

Definitely not good. I'll look the rest over later. Thanks!

Gotta' get to bed!