Life The Evolution of the Planet - Page 32

BIG_DADDY · 12-18-2013, 12:08 PM

I think to understand the nature of the problem that exists here today it is important to reflect on how we arrived here. For those that don’t know, ChiefsPlanet was created to get around the vast restrictions placed on posters in KC Star. It was a huge success right off the bat and we were rolling. IMO those first months we ended up with a lot of really great posters and only a couple bad ones. As time went on CP has attracted more and more people who love not having restrictions and unlimited subjects to discuss which was great other than the fact that that many thought those threads were polluting the forum with people arguing all the time over subjects that didn’t even involve football. I posted a poll asking the membership if they wanted another forum for off topics and it passed by a landslide and the people who run this BB were gracious enough to create it and DC was born.

That has worked for a long time now with this almost no holds barred format. Once again this type of forum has been attractive to people who love the open debate that can take place here but unfortunately over many years it has attracted more and more trolls who like using the structure here to do nothing more than try to get under posters skin and will do anything in order to do that. It’s also allowed posters like frazod to thrive here being the poster child of bad psychology. Talk about no boundaries with a strong desire to bust in others and dump. This has attracted more in the like, can anyone say KCN? The trolls have grown as well in this forum in a kind of perfect storm way. What we have today is a forum saturated with trolls and posters with the psychology of a 13 year old psychopathic girl on her first period. IMO this is costing us many potential good posters who would make this a better place to come to and has also seen us lose many quality long term posters. To complicate matters the moderators that reside here are fine with posters posting anything they want about you and your family members short of a racist remark heaven forbid just as long as you don’t do it to them which is now creating two different cultures that exist within the planet. If they think that it is hostile now they haven’t seen anything yet should this persist.

IMO at this point nothing short of a cleansing designed to rid the planet of trolls and bloody vaginas that have no control is exactly what this place needs to regain its former greatness. There was a time when I posted a thread about a family member and their battle with cancer and asked for prayers and support. Today there is no chance of me doing something like that here as I have no desire to see somebody post the nastiest thing they can think of at that point. For the old timers it should be easy to see the huge difference in where we were and where we are now. My 2 cents.

Just Passin' By · 12-18-2013, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

This is why it's impossible to have a discussion with you.

Instead of answering the question, you dodge it an spit out some passive-aggressive bullshit.

Please. Answer the question.

If Sanchez was as bad as you and others made him out to be in 2009-2010, how did the Jets get to the AFCCG twice?

I noted at the beginning that I wasn't going to do a full Sanchez rehash, and my point was about people like yourself being assholes at that time. Me now refusing to do a full Sanchez rehash, and pointing out that you're still behaving like an asshole isn't dodging your questions, and it's not me being passive aggressive.

Mosbonian · 12-18-2013, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish

I understood your first analogy, I was asking about specifics. How was it not tolerated then? Were the offenders banned? Were the rules different?

And if so, why is it not possible now?

Also your last sentence seems to indicate that you'd like the current offenders to leave. Which again, isn't that the entire reason the board was created? To get away from strict moderation rules?

I just keep thinking that CP is evolving in the manner of which it was intended, but now the older members don't like that approach anymore. Please correct me if I'm wrong there.

It wasn't tolerated....we policed the board ourselves and when people got out of line then we worked together to keep it from getting out of hand. In other words we didn't enable bad behavior by ignoring it.

Wanna know why it isn't possible now? Easy....because everyone enables really crappy behavior and attack mode, Jim Rome-style posting. (yes I stole that from someone else who posted it earlier). I take it from your post that you want the Jerry Springer-Morton Downey JR. mentality to continue around here.

And to answer your question directly...I could care less about less-strict moderation I'm just tired of people saying it's OK to act like assholes or attack dogs. If that is what you want then you can have the place...but remember ( if I can go back to the sports bar analogy) you (the general you, not the specific you) were the one that let it go from being a very nice sports bar that made money and had decent people to the shit hole that smells of urine, feces and has the Cops visiting almost every night to clean out the crowd that makes it a pig-sty.

Katipan · 12-18-2013, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mosbonian

It wasn't tolerated....we policed the board ourselves and when people got out of line then we worked together to keep it from getting out of hand. In other words we didn't enable bad behavior by ignoring it.

**MahiMike** · 12-18-2013, 05:12 PM

Why is everyone so pissy? Merry Christmas!

**Easy 6** · 12-18-2013, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

And he's still posting, thanks to a proxy IP address.

I thought i knew who it was, but he has denied it quite strenuously to me twice now.

If hooties back, he must've radically changed his posting style because i haven't been able to suss him out.

go bo · 12-18-2013, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

Lawyer.

Same thing.

hey!

i am officially retired now and have completed my human rehabilitation course...

i am no longer a lawyer, i'm a cesspool denizen...

oh wait...

go bo · 12-18-2013, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Katipan

Goes in the same place.

hmmm, gives a whole new meaning to blow job...

Mosbonian · 12-18-2013, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by go bowe

hey!

i am officially retired now and have completed my human rehabilitation course...

i am no longer a lawyer, i'm a cesspool denizen...

oh wait...

In Webster's Dictionary isn't the above bolded the definition of Attorney/Lawyer?

**J Diddy** · 12-18-2013, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

I think you've pretty much got it down...

So that's the problem. It's the new people.

They took er jubzz.

**Rausch** · 12-18-2013, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

So that's the problem. It's the new people.

Not at all...

stevieray · 12-18-2013, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Again, you can't possibly know that with an '07 start date. You're discounting, literally, half of the board's existence.

.......and that's a fact, jack!

**J Diddy** · 12-18-2013, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Not at all...

Heh. Out of context.

They are replacing us. They took our jobs.

patteeu · 12-18-2013, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Even if you only polled the old timers it would be a massive epic fail. Frankly I am shocked you would think otherwise.

I'm shocked that you keep saying that I think otherwise.

**Rausch** · 12-18-2013, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

Heh. Out of context.

They are replacing us. They took our jobs.

That's a conversation for another forum.

To me it's more about freedom to post/say what you want. Then when people start posting ways we don't like we want to restrict it.

keg in kc · 12-18-2013, 05:54 PM

How much of the change here has to do with the state of the team I wonder. If you think about it, although the board did start in 2001, it's basically a hold-over from the 90s and the so-called "success" of that time. Remember back when packfan used to joke about how we hadn't won a playoff game in x years. Well, flash forward to today, and this franchise has been a loser for nigh on 15 years. And as we all know it's been two decades since a playoff win. This has been a historically bad run of teams, even during the "highlight" Vermeil years. So how much of a psychological hit have we taken collectively?

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BIG_DADDY THE RED MENACE Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Texas Casino cash: $3978410	The Evolution of the Planet I think to understand the nature of the problem that exists here today it is important to reflect on how we arrived here. For those that don’t know, ChiefsPlanet was created to get around the vast restrictions placed on posters in KC Star. It was a huge success right off the bat and we were rolling. IMO those first months we ended up with a lot of really great posters and only a couple bad ones. As time went on CP has attracted more and more people who love not having restrictions and unlimited subjects to discuss which was great other than the fact that that many thought those threads were polluting the forum with people arguing all the time over subjects that didn’t even involve football. I posted a poll asking the membership if they wanted another forum for off topics and it passed by a landslide and the people who run this BB were gracious enough to create it and DC was born. That has worked for a long time now with this almost no holds barred format. Once again this type of forum has been attractive to people who love the open debate that can take place here but unfortunately over many years it has attracted more and more trolls who like using the structure here to do nothing more than try to get under posters skin and will do anything in order to do that. It’s also allowed posters like frazod to thrive here being the poster child of bad psychology. Talk about no boundaries with a strong desire to bust in others and dump. This has attracted more in the like, can anyone say KCN? The trolls have grown as well in this forum in a kind of perfect storm way. What we have today is a forum saturated with trolls and posters with the psychology of a 13 year old psychopathic girl on her first period. IMO this is costing us many potential good posters who would make this a better place to come to and has also seen us lose many quality long term posters. To complicate matters the moderators that reside here are fine with posters posting anything they want about you and your family members short of a racist remark heaven forbid just as long as you don’t do it to them which is now creating two different cultures that exist within the planet. If they think that it is hostile now they haven’t seen anything yet should this persist. IMO at this point nothing short of a cleansing designed to rid the planet of trolls and bloody vaginas that have no control is exactly what this place needs to regain its former greatness. There was a time when I posted a thread about a family member and their battle with cancer and asked for prayers and support. Today there is no chance of me doing something like that here as I have no desire to see somebody post the nastiest thing they can think of at that point. For the old timers it should be easy to see the huge difference in where we were and where we are now. My 2 cents.
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keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	How much of the change here has to do with the state of the team I wonder. If you think about it, although the board did start in 2001, it's basically a hold-over from the 90s and the so-called "success" of that time. Remember back when packfan used to joke about how we hadn't won a playoff game in x years. Well, flash forward to today, and this franchise has been a loser for nigh on 15 years. And as we all know it's been two decades since a playoff win. This has been a historically bad run of teams, even during the "highlight" Vermeil years. So how much of a psychological hit have we taken collectively?
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