**2014 Official NBA Playoffs Thread**

[-King-]

Round 1:

EAST:

#8 Hawks @ #1 Pacers
#7 Bobcats @ #2 Heat
#6 Nets @ #3 Raptors
#5 Wizards @ #4 Bulls

WEST:
#8 Mavericks @ #1 Spurs
#7 Grizzlies @ #2 Thunder
#6 Warriors @ #3 Clippers
#5 Blazers @ #4 Rockets

[ChiefsCountry]

Jordan at LeBron's age had 3 championships, 3 MVPs. Lets not just close the book on LeBron just yet.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don't know, but you sure seem to be 100% positive about answering a question nobody could possibly know the answer to.

It's sort of like asking whether Dan Marino would win more titles with the Patriots than Brady would have, yeah. Didn't you ask me that?

[Chiefs Pantalones]

It's very tough to compare eras, but just for shits and giggles, MJ's Bulls, Magic's Lakers, old great Celtics teams and bad boy Pistons would all have demolished both these teams. Basketball was better back then. I'm sure those that were born in like 1990 would disagree but the league was better in the 80's and 90's. More polished talent and teams. I'm old.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja

it wont anymore, its over! losing 3 of 5. Regardless of anything. No matter how anyone tries to spin it, its not going to happen! We are going to hear alot of talk about this on every ****ing sports channel there and it starts tomorrow.

You seriously think MJ could have won a championship with that Cavs team?

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones

It's very tough to compare eras, but just for shits and giggles, MJ's Bulls, Magic's Lakers, old great Celtics teams and bad boy Pistons would all have demolished both these teams. Basketball was better back then. I'm sure those that were born in like 1990 would disagree but the league was better in the 80's and 90's. More polished talent and teams. I'm old.

The NBA is being played at a higher level than it ever has been. The athletes are far bigger, stronger, and faster than they were 30 years ago. Evolution of sport.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

It's sort of like asking whether Dan Marino would win more titles with the Patriots than Brady would have, yeah. Didn't you ask me that?

And there you go again with your "he had good statistics, therefore he probably would have delivered in the clutch" assumptions.

The way Brady and Montana won Super Bowls was a combination of solid QB play and unbelievable late game heroics. And they did it many times over. You have this really weird knack for not thinking play in the clutch matters at all whatsoever. There is simply no way you can predict if Marino could have done the same. But it's a VERY high bar.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

The NBA is being played at a higher level than it ever has been. The athletes are far bigger, stronger, and faster than they were 30 years ago. Evolution of sport.

Yeah. Look at all those elite centers in the game today

[ChiefsCountry]

Since Jordan retired the first time,

Spurs 5 titles
Lakers 5 titles
Heat 3 titles
Celtics 1 title
Mavericks 1 title
Pistons 1 title

Crazy that half of the titles were won by the two teams in the last two Finals.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Yeah. Look at all those elite centers in the game today

6'11, 7'0 guys don't plant their ass on the block anymore. The game has involved where all guys can shoot and dribble now. Sorry that chaps your ass.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by -King-

However the NBA is planning to rig this so the Heat will win must be pretty ****ing epic. Can't wait.

Them are some big tears there partna...

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

This series yeah he didn't get any help from his teammates for the most part but these were the same guys that won 2 championships. The Spurs just wanted it more.

If he wanted to win so bad he should have accepted $1 million a year and went to SA or maybe Boston. It is not like he didn't have choices.

And one championship they were a missed FT from losing. The Heat relied too heavily on the Big 3 and failed to build around them. They let their role players age and chose not to replace them. When two of the Big 3 fail to show up you have a recipe for the three blowouts against a better all around team.

He could take a pay cut to go elsewhere, no doubt. But he is worth his salary, Wade and Bosh and Allen by no means were.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

You said "that's all that needs to be said," though, so it must be the only measurement. And it must be done with no context.


Dropping a Kobe comp is the pure definition of that, I'm afraid. MJ and LeBron are in a different stratosphere as basketball players.


Because making the outcome of this series a referendum on LeBron's entire career and legacy is really as silly as it gets (especially if you watched the games and saw why the Heat lost). The guy is 29. He has a long way to go yet, many records left to break, and likely several more titles left to win.

When comparing these 2 players championships won and lost will end up probably being the deciding factor because they have similar stats. That is what I mean. That is why I made the Lebron = Manning comparison a few days ago. Manning has all the passing stats etc but he doesn't have the rings and unblemished record.

The Kobe reference was in reference to Lebron having to win 3 more titles. Can he do it in the next 5-6 years? Will his body hold up? What team will he surround himself with moving forward? These are all legit questions.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by tredadda

Again Jordan's teams were far deeper than these Heat teams. Those Bulls teams had very few weaknesses.

Makes sense...

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

And there you go again with your "he had good statistics, therefore he probably would have delivered in the clutch" assumptions.

Brady hasn't delivered in the clutch in 10 years with some very, very good teams. I suspect Marino would have.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by Rudy lost the toss

****, I hate this city.

And the city hates you back...