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Old 05-08-2015, 10:57 AM  
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Forced Vaccinations are on the way.

After failing miserably across the country even with all the endless campaign contributions, Big Pharm have their eye’s set on the People’s Republic of California where it is business as usual even as 3 senators are being charged with criminal misconduct. As California goes so does the rest of the country, right? http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/04/us...dals.html?_r=0

California has two proposals right now SB277 mandatory vaccination for all kids in school. SB792 mandatory vaccines for all day care facilities and providers. I have been to every hearing on SB277 open to the public and one on 4/29 on SB792. Some of the teeth of bill SB277 are currently being pulled due to legal concerns. Personal exemptions will be honored until that student goes to another school. Over 2k people overtook the capitol 4th floor protesting. This received a mainstream media blackout. On that note I would like to clear up some deceptions and outright lies. The media is dividing society by labeling pro-vaxxers and non-vaxxers or anti-vaxxers. You probably think the latter do not do vaccines, right? Wrong, opt out of a single dose of our ridiculous schedule and that is what you are labeled which would be almost everyone in this forum unless you one of the unfortunate kids who are on the lab rat 69 doses in 17 vaccine schedule by 18yrs.
Next I got called to the mat by Dane who insists the affluent in high end private schools are all vaccinated. PBE’s are a personal belief exemption. Plug in any high end school right here and see for yourself. I would suggest starting with the Waldorf School. http://ww2.kqed.org/stateofhealth/20...l-online/#find

So let me get this straight, people who can afford the very best doctors have the highest PBE’s? Don’t doctors, scientists and health care workers who all see the damage that is caused by vaccines have some of the highest PBE rates? Absolutely

http://vaccinefactcheck.org/2015/03/...-vaccinations/
https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2...fused-vaccine/
http://www.namv.org/

Do your own due diligence in this area, you will be shocked. Everything I have told you about the Sens Foundation, the Buck Institute and friends in the industry is absolutely true. It is hard to come out and be really vocal publicly when you are up against a 711 Billion Dollar behemoth dead set on destroying your career if you cross them.
Next, Fish said there is no $$$ in vaccines, once again you are being deceived. http://www.4-traders.com/news/Global...ket--20314140/
Back on topic, this is pretty much what is going on nationally and locally. http://www.bolenreport.com/autism/an...ine%20yes8.htm

I will add additional links of interest throughout this thread.

117 Vaccine injuries and deaths in three months alone
http://vaccineimpact.com/2015/march-...es-and-deaths/
Top Lobbying Industries
https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/to...e=i&showYear=a
Sharyl Attkisson CBS Emmy award winning 21 year investigative journalist.
https://sharylattkisson.com/what-the...utism-studies/
Science for Sale
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mar..._b_747325.html

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Old 09-22-2015, 10:36 AM   #496
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When I went for my first OB visit, she told me that any measles vaccination I had as a kid was no longer effective. They will be vaccinating me after the baby is born. She said I was not to, under any circumstance, be near anyone I suspected might have measles. For the safety of our baby, my boyfriend is also making sure he's caught up on his vaccinations.

I am 100% in support of vaccinations. However, I am still undecided as to whether or not so many being at one time is a good idea.
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Old 09-22-2015, 10:39 AM   #497
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as a father with a child diagnosed with CVID and who requires infusions once a month; I am more than happy that vaccines are going to be required.

Not everyone has the immune system to combat many of these illnesses that can be prevented. Unfortunately, not all parents understand this and often times it's children, like my 4 year old son, who have to pay the price.

Thanks for posting and sharing this. Prayers and positive vibes headed in everyone's direction. Lets hug our loved ones and get bourbon in our eyes while we still have breath in us.
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Old 09-22-2015, 10:42 AM   #498
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Actually, one of them does.

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(Sanofi Pasteur, Inc.) 0.01% (12.5 µg/0.25 mL dose, 25 µg/0.5 mL dose)

But that's the only one, and the 25 microgram dose is the highest dosage, obviously for adults. Still half the mercury content of a single can of tuna.
Not getting into the overall argument/discussion but I will note that having an injection of something would have much greater impact than ingesting that same something where the vast majority would get filtered out through the digestive process.
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Old 09-22-2015, 10:43 AM   #499
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When I went for my first OB visit, she told me that any measles vaccination I had as a kid was no longer effective. They will be vaccinating me after the baby is born. She said I was not to, under any circumstance, be near anyone I suspected might have measles. For the safety of our baby, my boyfriend is also making sure he's caught up on his vaccinations.

I am 100% in support of vaccinations. However, I am still undecided as to whether or not so many being at one time is a good idea.
You should consider finding an expert on the subject who has had years of formal education (college, medical school, residency) and additional professional experience working in health care to give you advice. In exchange, you would pay them to treat your illnesses and give you direction on how to treat your illnesses as well as help you prevent them proactively.
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Old 09-22-2015, 10:46 AM   #500
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Not getting into the overall argument/discussion but I will note that having an injection of something would have much greater impact than ingesting that same something where the vast majority would get filtered out through the digestive process.

Well, it gets complicated but Thimerisol that was used, breaks down into
ethylmercury, which is actually much easier on the body....The mercury in fish is much...MUCH more dangerous in reality.

This didn't stop the drug companies from removing the precursor to ethylmercury from childrens vaccines in 2001, however



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Mercury is a naturally occurring element found in the earth's crust, air, soil, and water. Two types of mercury to which people may be exposed -- methylmercury and ethylmercury -- are very different.

Methylmercury is the type of mercury found in certain kinds of fish. At high exposure levels methylmercury can be toxic to people. In the United States, federal guidelines keep as much methylmercury as possible out of the environment and food, but over a lifetime, everyone is exposed to some methylmercury.

Thimerosal contains ethylmercury, which is cleared from the human body more quickly than methylmercury, and is therefore less likely to cause any harm.
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Old 09-22-2015, 11:24 AM   #501
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There is no scientific evidence tying vaccinations to autism, only anecdotal stories. The rise in autism could be caused by so many different things that picking one and deciding it is the cause without any evidence is foolish.
People want something to blame. That's all it really comes down to.
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Old 09-22-2015, 11:37 AM   #502
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I think I mentioned this earlier but some people just don't understand the concept of "Herd Immunity".

My oldest daughter visited Disneyland last year and about a week later, had "pimples" on her back. I quickly identified them as Chickenpox, which then spread to her feet, which became so enlarged, she couldn't walk. She had just turned six at the time and was due for her Chickenpox booster shot but since she caught the disease, it wasn't needed.

Unfortunately, my youngest daughter was only 18 months at the time and had only one vaccination. She caught the virus and it quickly spread over her entire body, including her face. She was miserable. The pediatrician put her on Acyclovir, which helped maintain the further spread of the pox but not the duration, as it took more than six weeks for them to finally disappear.

I can't imagine taking an unvaccinated child to a theme park, especially one who hasn't had the MMR, Hep B and the rest of the vaccination schedule.
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People want something to blame. That's all it really comes down to.
It's hard to think about something bad happening and not knowing the cause. It is a coping mechanism to assign blame. We really want to believe it's someone else's fault when something bad happens, not that it's our fault or it's random or uncontrollable. We think we can control everything and the idea that there is much we can't control is scary.
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Old 10-03-2015, 01:46 PM   #504
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Oops.

http://www.newsweek.com/anti-vaxxers...ism-and-379245

Anti-Vaxxers Accidentally Fund a Study Showing No Link Between Autism and Vaccines
BY JESSICA FIRGER 10/2/15 AT 2:28 PM

Most experts today agree that the belief that childhood vaccines cause autism is based on bunk science. Even still, some advocacy groups claim immunizations are responsible for raising the risk for this neurodevelopmental condition, despite a growing body of research that shows there isn’t a link. (The study that most anti-vaccination groups point to was retracted after it was found to be based on falsified data.)

Despite the science, organizations involved in the anti-vaccine movement still hope to find some evidence that vaccines threaten children’s health. For example, the autism advocacy organization SafeMinds recently funded research it hoped would prove vaccines cause autism in children. But this effort appears to have backfired for the organization—whose mission is to raise awareness about how certain environmental exposures may be linked to autism—since the study SafeMinds supported showed a link between autism and vaccines does not exist.

(more at the link)
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Old 10-03-2015, 02:20 PM   #505
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http://www.newsweek.com/anti-vaxxers...ism-and-379245

Anti-Vaxxers Accidentally Fund a Study Showing No Link Between Autism and Vaccines
BY JESSICA FIRGER 10/2/15 AT 2:28 PM

Most experts today agree that the belief that childhood vaccines cause autism is based on bunk science. Even still, some advocacy groups claim immunizations are responsible for raising the risk for this neurodevelopmental condition, despite a growing body of research that shows there isn’t a link. (The study that most anti-vaccination groups point to was retracted after it was found to be based on falsified data.)

Despite the science, organizations involved in the anti-vaccine movement still hope to find some evidence that vaccines threaten children’s health. For example, the autism advocacy organization SafeMinds recently funded research it hoped would prove vaccines cause autism in children. But this effort appears to have backfired for the organization—whose mission is to raise awareness about how certain environmental exposures may be linked to autism—since the study SafeMinds supported showed a link between autism and vaccines does not exist.

(more at the link)
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The number of children diagnosed with autism or related disorders has grown at what many call an alarming rate. In the 1970s and 1980s, about one out of every 2,000 children had autism. Today, the CDC estimates that one in 150 8-year-olds in the U.S. has an autism spectrum disorder, or ASD.

I'm not claiming there's a correlation, but something is causing it.
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The number of children diagnosed with autism or related disorders has grown at what many call an alarming rate. In the 1970s and 1980s, about one out of every 2,000 children had autism. Today, the CDC estimates that one in 150 8-year-olds in the U.S. has an autism spectrum disorder, or ASD.

I'm not claiming there's a correlation, but something is causing it.
Thanks for not claiming there's a correlation, since there isn't one.
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The number of children diagnosed with autism or related disorders has grown at what many call an alarming rate. In the 1970s and 1980s, about one out of every 2,000 children had autism. Today, the CDC estimates that one in 150 8-year-olds in the U.S. has an autism spectrum disorder, or ASD.

I'm not claiming there's a correlation, but something is causing it.
Ice cream sales have repeatedly been proven to be directly correlated with murders. Ice cream should clearly been banned.
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The number of children diagnosed with autism or related disorders has grown at what many call an alarming rate. In the 1970s and 1980s, about one out of every 2,000 children had autism. Today, the CDC estimates that one in 150 8-year-olds in the U.S. has an autism spectrum disorder, or ASD.

I'm not claiming there's a correlation, but something is causing it.
Even if there was a correlation, you must remember that correlation does not equal causation.
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The number of children diagnosed with autism or related disorders has grown at what many call an alarming rate. In the 1970s and 1980s, about one out of every 2,000 children had autism. Today, the CDC estimates that one in 150 8-year-olds in the U.S. has an autism spectrum disorder, or ASD.

I'm not claiming there's a correlation, but something is causing it.
This link is an oldie but a goodie.

http://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations

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