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And that Smokey is actually either Apep or Set, who were both the God of Evil(Apep first, then Set took over the role. They were in a sense viewed as the same person). Apep/Set was always identified as a snake or serpent(Smokey resemblence), and known as the god of storms. Also seen as the deification of darkness, and the enemy of light(black and white stones). Apep/Set resided in the underworld(the cave from which the light sprung). The Temple of Set is known for rebirth and immortality(The temple pool). Apep was known as the eater of souls, and the dead also needed protection against him(Smokey possessing the dead). Apep could only be defeated(not necessarily killed) by fettering(restricting him to the island), or by stabbing him with a knife(Dogon's knife). I don't know, I could be way off here, but this is what was floating around my brain when watching this latest episode.. The trouble I'm having with it though is how in the world does Jacob and MIB come into play with that theory...
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The episode built up how "special" mib was and how he just "knew" certain things... THEN we are told that going into the light won't kill you but will do something worse to you... THEN mib goes into the light causing him to lose his corporeal form and become smokey I also think the same thing happened to "mother" at some earlier point... which is how she knew something "worse" would happen and also explains her ability to wipe out an entire village If the smoke monster is a seperate entity that just took mib's form... then the show has lost its burst and the writers shoulda quit while they were ahead. |
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You know how MIB could see his Dead Mom? Well which of the Losties can see dead people? Thats right, Hurley. I think that might mean since he is special he'll end up taking MIB's place. I sort of think Jack is like Jacob too, Jacobs mom didn't believe in him at first, just like Jacks dad. But in the end they finally believed in them. So he'll take Jacobs spot. |
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Plus, the Mother obviously didn't lose her corporeal form, so that theory is out the window. When she died, she decomposed, as did Jacob's twin brother. I think the Smoke Monster is some sort of demon that needs a dead body to inhabit in order to leave the Island. Otherwise, he's trapped forever. |
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Until then I am going with she was a smokey, or some sort of similar creature. --- OH SHIIIIIIIIIIIII Just thought of something. Remember how she said you don't die if you go in the light, something far worse happense to you? Well the only way she could know is if she either went in the light orrrrrrrr, she saw someone go in the light. Maybe there was another smokey on the island, and when MIB went in, he replaced that smokey, as Jacob replaced his mother. I don't think we'll ever find out though. |
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The Smoke Monster we've seen (MIB/Flocke) isn't flesh and blood, so that theory is out the window. Plus, we've never seen the Smoke Monster exhibit supernatural strength and power. Just the power to kill. |
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I'm not 100% sold on the mother being the (or A) smoke monster, though I don't think it's implausible. You do make a good point about the body, though. The two things that keep me from thinking that MIB is dead and smokey is simply using his form: - the mother claimed that Jacob and MIB couldn't kill ("hurt", but kill is implied) each other - the mother claiming that by going into the light, you wouldn't die, but instead suffer a worse fate I think smokey was somehow spawned from the essense (soul?) of MIB when he went into the light... |
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If the MIB wasn't part of the origin of the smoke monster, then why bother showing that scene? It has to be important that the smoke monster emerged at the exact same time that MIB went into the light. There also has to be significance to the "fate worse than death" comment about going into the light, IMHO. |
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1. To reveal the consequences of entering the light in the cave. 2. To reveal that Jacob's twin brother was actually dead and NOT the Smoke Monster. The Smoke Monster is able to take the form of any dead human that it thinks will benefit it in its attempt to escape the island. First, it used the identity of Jacob's dead brother but after hundreds (maybe thousands) of years, it figures out that the MIB's identity does him no good. So, he hatches a plot (as we saw in Season Five) to where he can take the identity of John Locke, knowing that people trust and will follow him, thus helping the Smoke Monster to get off the island. I think the writers made it a point to confuse the viewer as to the Smoke Monster's real identity by having the MIB want to leave the island as well. |
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