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Old 02-15-2014, 01:02 AM  
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Ellen Page is gay
Well, that's interesting.

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Actress Ellen Page publicly came out as gay Friday evening, while giving a speech at Time to THRIVE, a national LGBTQ youth conference held in Las Vegas.

"I'm here today because I am gay," Page told the assembled crowd, which responded with a standing ovation and a long chorus of cheers.

"Whoo!" said Page, before continuing:

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"And because maybe I can make a difference. To help others have an easier and more hopeful time. Regardless, for me, I feel a personal obligation and a social responsibility.

I also do it selfishly because I'm tired of hiding and I'm tired of lying by omission. I suffered for years because I was scared to be out. My spirit suffered, my mental health suffered, and my relationships suffered. And I'm standing here today with all of you on the other side of that pain."
Page is most famous for becoming pregnant by her awkward classmate Michael Cera, and for invading the dreams of a stranger alongside Leonardo DiCaprio, neither of which happened in real life, because she is an actress.

After her speech, the Human Rights Campaign, which organized the conference, congratulated Page on the front page of its website for "her brave decision to live openly and authentically."
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Old 02-17-2014, 11:54 AM   #511
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Just a really simplistic and base argument... along the lines of Southerners who say things were better with Jim Crow. "As long as they know there place...everything will be okay."

We actually express our heteroness constantly in our culture through art, sport, media - you name it - it's societal. You can't be blind to that, and it shouldn't make you feel uncomfortable that homosexuals express their love or desire publicly.... we all do.

You're whole take got derailed when you said," shouldn't make you feel uncomfortable that homosexuals express their love or desire publicly.... we all do." Who are you to say what should or shouldn't make one feel uncomfortable? If you take that position on one side, you must allow it for the other. Do you? I don't feel it necessary to announce my sexuality. Get it?
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Old 02-17-2014, 11:58 AM   #512
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You're whole take got derailed when you said," shouldn't make you feel uncomfortable that homosexuals express their love or desire publicly.... we all do." Who are you to say what should or shouldn't make one feel uncomfortable? If you take that position on one side, you must allow it for the other. Do you? I don't feel it necessary to announce my sexuality. Get it?
You would feel it necessary if you had spent your life being told your sexuality was wrong.
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Old 02-17-2014, 11:59 AM   #513
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Just a really simplistic and base argument... along the lines of Southerners who say things were better with Jim Crow. "As long as they know there place...everything will be okay."

We actually express our heteroness constantly in our culture through art, sport, media - you name it - it's societal. You can't be blind to that, and it shouldn't make you feel uncomfortable that homosexuals express their love or desire publicly.... we all do.
Every time this thread hits a new stupidity low and starts to plateau, something like this comes along and takes it even lower.
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Old 02-17-2014, 12:01 PM   #514
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You would feel it necessary if you had spent your life being told your sexuality was wrong.
Wrong meaning "bad" or wrong meaning "abnormal"?
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Old 02-17-2014, 12:02 PM   #515
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It's quite a bit more complicated than just "Acting" equal. Gays don't even have to come out of the closet to "Act" equal. The problem is that gays don't want to go through life doing an act. All they want is to be exactly who they are without feeling the need to "Act" in order to feel that they belong.

Heteros don't go around announcing being straight because society already accepts that lifestyle. Homos announce themselves as such because they just want society to get to the point where that's also an accepted lifestyle. Right now it isn't. If it were truly accepted, an announcement like this wouldn't get any discussion. The fact that it gets a great deal of discussion and some people are really bothered about it, is proof that we have a long way to go.
Accepted as what? That it exists, or that you approve? Quite a big delta between the two.
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Old 02-17-2014, 12:09 PM   #516
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Wrong meaning "bad" or wrong meaning "abnormal"?
Wrong meaning bad. I don't agree with your "Abnormal" label in the slightest.
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Old 02-17-2014, 12:12 PM   #517
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Ok, doesn't mean they don't deserve basic human rights like everyone else has, like getting married and it being recognized by the law, or raising children, or playing football in the NFL etc..
I have a basic right to play in the NFL?!?!?!?


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Wrong meaning bad. I don't agree with your "Abnormal" label in the slightest.
Why not? Is it just the word?
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You're completely wrong as usual. The type of thinking I'm suggesting goes well past your point of view and how people who share your beliefs think.

Would you give any conservative a pass if speaking to a conservative audience on a controversial issue, no matter how the information became assimilated to the mainstream? I think not and you did not and to suggest that you would is an outright lie.

People like you thinking that they know the reason behind how other think is a problem. Especially when discussing issues like this. It's part of the reason folks like you complain at the lack of progress on the issue.
My fiercest critics on this site (aside from Prison Bitch) think I'd give any conservative a pass (again, aside from Prison Bitch) on any controversial issue no matter what kind of audience they're speaking to. It's not completely true, but it's much closer to the truth than what you say here. People like me are quite a bit like people like you, minus the negative feelings toward gays.
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Why not? Is it just the word?
It's too broad to serve as an accurate distinguishable attribute regarding sexuality. Anal sex is sexually abnormal. But we don't have a separate social categorization between people who like anal sex and those who don't. There are many attributes of sexuality that you could label as abnormal. It would be an endless pursuit.

Sexuality is so broad it's difficult to define any normality at all. Some could argue that there's a degree of homosexuality to everyone. Would you say that a bisexual person is 50% abnormal? What if a woman's last partners were 3 males and 1 female. Would it be accurate to say that woman is 25% abnormal? No, of course not because you start to see how silly that kind of label is.
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It's too broad to serve as an accurate distinguishable attribute regarding sexuality. Anal sex is sexually abnormal. But we don't have a separate social categorization between people who like anal sex and those who don't. There are many attributes of sexuality that you could label as abnormal. It would be an endless pursuit.
I talking about the fact that homosexuals possess the sexual organs to mate with the opposite sex, and not the desire. I wasn't referring to the sexual act.

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Sexuality is so broad it's difficult to define any normality at all. Some could argue that there's a degree of homosexuality to everyone. Would you say that a bisexual person is 50% abnormal? What if a woman's last partners were 3 males and 1 female. Would it be accurate to say that woman is 25% abnormal? No, of course not because you start to see how silly that kind of label is.
No, it isn't silly. Bisexuals are abnormal, too.
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Why not? Is it just the word?
Would you just come out already. Seriously.
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The term "abnormal" as used here is highly subjective, no?
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The term "abnormal" as used here is highly subjective, no?
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