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ArrowheadHawk · 11:26 AM

2011-12 Kansas Men’s Basketball (29-6,17-3)
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Bambi · 03-06-2012, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReynardMuldrake

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebaske...s-poy-ballot-3

HOW DARE YOU DEFY ALL THAT IS SEC SPORTS!?!?!?!

Braincase · 03-06-2012, 10:17 PM

A composite of all of the basketball ranking services.

Link

Out of 56 ranking systems, only one, hosted by the Saint Micheal's Computer Science Department, has KU as the second strongest team in the Big 12.

Expect your SEC aligned foes to quote from them regularly.

**Lzen** · 03-07-2012, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ReynardMuldrake

http://www.kansascity.com/2012/03/05...k=omni_popular

Somebody needs to send this to frazod.

**Lzen** · 03-07-2012, 12:01 PM

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Bambi · 03-07-2012, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen

Lost wallet with my ID and all credit cards at Ks City airport Sun. Turned in in envelope with "Rock Chalk" written on it. WOW # KUfansclassy
Holly Rowe ‏ @ sportsiren

Nothing better than being a KU fan. Nice story.

DJay23 · 03-07-2012, 01:01 PM

Good article by Keegan.

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2012/m...well-deserved/

Self’s awards well-deserved

By Tom Keegan

Sporting News got it right in naming Bill Self its National Coach of the Year.

Before crying “homer,” consider the facts of the team Self has directed to a 26-5 record and a No. 3 national ranking against what statistician Jeff Sagarin ranks the third-strongest schedule in America (behind Michigan and Oklahoma State).

Compare Self’s roster, in terms of game experience within the program and hype coming out of high school, to the rosters of the other three leading contenders for No. 1 seeds in the NCAA Tournament: Kentucky, Syracuse and North Carolina.

Kansas ranks last in both areas.

Kentucky’s John Calipari is a magnificent basketball coach and doesn’t always get enough credit for winning with young talent because his personality rubs so many people the wrong way. I’ve never quite understood why, but then again, I’m biased. I tend to give the benefit of the doubt to guys who are candid and colorful with their quotes, and Calipari is both.

Syracuse’s Jim Boeheim forever has been under-appreciated for his basketball brilliance as well. He dares to do it differently from most elite coaches in that he uses a 2-3 zone, not the preferred man-to-man. He really knows how to put a roster together and never leaves himself short of size, long-range shooters and pure point guards.

The way the Tar Heels are playing lately, Roy Williams has as good a shot as any coach to win what would be his third national title, all with North Carolina, after taking Kansas to four Final Fours in 15 seasons.

A check of the Associated Press preseason poll shows North Carolina was picked No. 1, Kentucky No. 2 and Syracuse No. 5. It requires a masterful coaching job to meet such high expectations, so kudos to the three coaches.

But what separates Self from the others is that the Kansas success is a stunner. Even a preseason ranking of No. 13 seemed a bit too optimistic given that Tyshawn Taylor was the only returning starter and had played more minutes for Self than the rest of the roster combined. Plus, the ineligibility rulings for the two top freshmen, Ben McLemore and Jamari Traylor, meant Self had to head into the season with former walk-ons Conner Teahan and Justin Wesley as his sixth and seventh men.

Career minutes played in the program heading into the season for the four schools: 1. Syracuse 9,467; 2. North Carolina 7,814; 3. Kentucky 5,343; 4. Kansas 5,130.

McDonald’s All-Americans on the roster: 1. North Carolina 7; 2. Kentucky 4; 3. Syracuse 3; 4. Kansas 0.

Plus, Self had to adjust this season because one of his favorite tools — dangling playing time as a carrot to get players to do it his way — wasn’t available. He had to play his starters, and he still got them to follow orders so well that the Jayhawks are ranked third in the country.

It doesn’t take a homer to recognize a grand-slam coaching job.

.

Dr. Johnny Fever · 03-07-2012, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJay23

Good article by Keegan.

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2012/m...well-deserved/

Self’s awards well-deserved

By Tom Keegan

Sporting News got it right in naming Bill Self its National Coach of the Year.

Before crying “homer,” consider the facts of the team Self has directed to a 26-5 record and a No. 3 national ranking against what statistician Jeff Sagarin ranks the third-strongest schedule in America (behind Michigan and Oklahoma State).

Compare Self’s roster, in terms of game experience within the program and hype coming out of high school, to the rosters of the other three leading contenders for No. 1 seeds in the NCAA Tournament: Kentucky, Syracuse and North Carolina.

Kansas ranks last in both areas.

Kentucky’s John Calipari is a magnificent basketball coach and doesn’t always get enough credit for winning with young talent because his personality rubs so many people the wrong way. I’ve never quite understood why, but then again, I’m biased. I tend to give the benefit of the doubt to guys who are candid and colorful with their quotes, and Calipari is both.

Syracuse’s Jim Boeheim forever has been under-appreciated for his basketball brilliance as well. He dares to do it differently from most elite coaches in that he uses a 2-3 zone, not the preferred man-to-man. He really knows how to put a roster together and never leaves himself short of size, long-range shooters and pure point guards.

The way the Tar Heels are playing lately, Roy Williams has as good a shot as any coach to win what would be his third national title, all with North Carolina, after taking Kansas to four Final Fours in 15 seasons.

A check of the Associated Press preseason poll shows North Carolina was picked No. 1, Kentucky No. 2 and Syracuse No. 5. It requires a masterful coaching job to meet such high expectations, so kudos to the three coaches.

But what separates Self from the others is that the Kansas success is a stunner. Even a preseason ranking of No. 13 seemed a bit too optimistic given that Tyshawn Taylor was the only returning starter and had played more minutes for Self than the rest of the roster combined. Plus, the ineligibility rulings for the two top freshmen, Ben McLemore and Jamari Traylor, meant Self had to head into the season with former walk-ons Conner Teahan and Justin Wesley as his sixth and seventh men.

Career minutes played in the program heading into the season for the four schools: 1. Syracuse 9,467; 2. North Carolina 7,814; 3. Kentucky 5,343; 4. Kansas 5,130.

McDonald’s All-Americans on the roster: 1. North Carolina 7; 2. Kentucky 4; 3. Syracuse 3; 4. Kansas 0.

Plus, Self had to adjust this season because one of his favorite tools — dangling playing time as a carrot to get players to do it his way — wasn’t available. He had to play his starters, and he still got them to follow orders so well that the Jayhawks are ranked third in the country.

It doesn’t take a homer to recognize a grand-slam coaching job.

.

This can't be true. I read on Chiefs Planet that other guys deserve it more and this is just another case of smoochy assed home cooking.

Bambi · 03-07-2012, 02:24 PM

KU doesn't have any McDonald's All Americans?

I thought they got all the best players all the time.

Boss says no.

oh, and Gary Pinkel thinks Mike Anderson is a great coach.

mnchiefsguy · 03-07-2012, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wickedson

KU doesn't have any McDonald's All Americans?

I thought they got all the best players all the time.

Boss says no.

oh, and Gary Pinkel thinks Mike Anderson is a great coach.

No, dumbass. Gary Pinkel said Mike Anderson was a great hire. And given the complete cluster**** that Mizzou basketball was after Quin Snyder, Andersone was a great hire. He brought the program back to respectability after Quin.

Quin Snyder is to Mizzou what Ted Owens is to KU....

**Lzen** · 03-07-2012, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

Quin Snyder is to Mizzou what Ted Owens is to KU....

Yeah, except one of those guys teams won 6 conference titles, was named conference coach of the year 5 times, was named national coach of the year once, and got his teams to the Final Four twice.

Reerun_KC · 03-07-2012, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen

Yeah, except one of those guys teams won 6 conference titles, was named conference coach of the year 5 times, was named national coach of the year once, and got his teams to the Final Four twice.

Damn it you beat me to it...

WTF is he trying to compare?

Bambi · 03-07-2012, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

No, dumbass. Gary Pinkel said Mike Anderson was a great hire. And given the complete cluster**** that Mizzou basketball was after Quin Snyder, Andersone was a great hire. He brought the program back to respectability after Quin.

Quin Snyder is to Mizzou what Ted Owens is to KU....

No, he called him a great coach and all the players like him.

Reerun_KC · 03-07-2012, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

No, dumbass. Gary Pinkel said Mike Anderson was a great hire. And given the complete cluster**** that Mizzou basketball was after Quin Snyder, Andersone was a great hire. He brought the program back to respectability after Quin.

Quin Snyder is to Mizzou what Ted Owens is to KU....

Seriously? You actually believe and said this?

Bambi · 03-07-2012, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen

Yeah, except one of those guys teams won 6 conference titles, was named conference coach of the year 5 times, was named national coach of the year once, and got his teams to the Final Four twice.

Well, Pinkel and Turner Gill still both only have 1 MAC Championship each so you can see how the MU logic works.

Pablo · 03-07-2012, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen

Yeah, except one of those guys teams won 6 conference titles, was named conference coach of the year 5 times, was named national coach of the year once, and got his teams to the Final Four twice.

Aside from all that he makes a fantastic point.

03-31-2011, 09:32 AM
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DJay23 Rock Chalk Jayhawk Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: PA Casino cash: $2453317	Good article by Keegan. http://www2.kusports.com/news/2012/m...well-deserved/ Self’s awards well-deserved By Tom Keegan Sporting News got it right in naming Bill Self its National Coach of the Year. Before crying “homer,” consider the facts of the team Self has directed to a 26-5 record and a No. 3 national ranking against what statistician Jeff Sagarin ranks the third-strongest schedule in America (behind Michigan and Oklahoma State). Compare Self’s roster, in terms of game experience within the program and hype coming out of high school, to the rosters of the other three leading contenders for No. 1 seeds in the NCAA Tournament: Kentucky, Syracuse and North Carolina. Kansas ranks last in both areas. Kentucky’s John Calipari is a magnificent basketball coach and doesn’t always get enough credit for winning with young talent because his personality rubs so many people the wrong way. I’ve never quite understood why, but then again, I’m biased. I tend to give the benefit of the doubt to guys who are candid and colorful with their quotes, and Calipari is both. Syracuse’s Jim Boeheim forever has been under-appreciated for his basketball brilliance as well. He dares to do it differently from most elite coaches in that he uses a 2-3 zone, not the preferred man-to-man. He really knows how to put a roster together and never leaves himself short of size, long-range shooters and pure point guards. The way the Tar Heels are playing lately, Roy Williams has as good a shot as any coach to win what would be his third national title, all with North Carolina, after taking Kansas to four Final Fours in 15 seasons. A check of the Associated Press preseason poll shows North Carolina was picked No. 1, Kentucky No. 2 and Syracuse No. 5. It requires a masterful coaching job to meet such high expectations, so kudos to the three coaches. But what separates Self from the others is that the Kansas success is a stunner. Even a preseason ranking of No. 13 seemed a bit too optimistic given that Tyshawn Taylor was the only returning starter and had played more minutes for Self than the rest of the roster combined. Plus, the ineligibility rulings for the two top freshmen, Ben McLemore and Jamari Traylor, meant Self had to head into the season with former walk-ons Conner Teahan and Justin Wesley as his sixth and seventh men. Career minutes played in the program heading into the season for the four schools: 1. Syracuse 9,467; 2. North Carolina 7,814; 3. Kentucky 5,343; 4. Kansas 5,130. McDonald’s All-Americans on the roster: 1. North Carolina 7; 2. Kentucky 4; 3. Syracuse 3; 4. Kansas 0. Plus, Self had to adjust this season because one of his favorite tools — dangling playing time as a carrot to get players to do it his way — wasn’t available. He had to play his starters, and he still got them to follow orders so well that the Jayhawks are ranked third in the country. It doesn’t take a homer to recognize a grand-slam coaching job. . __________________ "True bliss is not something you search for, true bliss is already living inside us all, and sometimes it takes a roomfull of others to lead us to the mirror of your soul." - CosmicPal (10-3-03)
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