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Old 11-12-2013, 03:09 PM  
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Old 11-26-2013, 02:34 PM   #541
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I wonder if Kim English still thinks Jeff Withey can't play in the NBA?

How's Europe bitch?
He's right. Jeff Withey can't play in the NBA. He's getting 6 minutes a game on the worst team in the league.

There's a good chance that English plays more career NBA minutes than Jeff Withey does.

EDIT: In games he plays, he gets roughly 6 minutes. He only plays in about half the games. So really, he's getting 3 minutes/gm. So yeah, I don't imagine English's opinion on Withey has changed much.
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Old 11-26-2013, 03:07 PM   #542
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Old 11-26-2013, 03:22 PM   #543
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1. KU did not deserve a BCS bid over Missouri. Missouri got punished for losing a conference championship. KU neither played in that game nor won the H2H over Missouri. No way KU deserved it more (except in the minds of Jayhawk fans).

2. The Rose Bowl always hosts the Big 10 vs Pac-10 (now Pac-12) champs unless one of those plays in the BCS championship game. I am not 100% sure but I am pretty sure that is true even if the Rose Bowl hosts the BCS Championship game. Illinois played in that game because tOSU played for the NC.

3. Illinois did not screw Mizzou out of a game that, unless they were playing for the NC, they can never and will never be eligible for as they are in neither the Pac-12 or Big 10.

You're arguing tangential points and avoiding the concept f "deserving" something. Just because the rule screwed Mizzou, that has zero bearing on whether they or KU were deserving or not. And the Rose has no requirement to take a BIG team, it was simply their choice and they chose IL over Mizzou and Kansas. IL took a spot belonging to both Mizzou and Kansas, period.
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Old 11-26-2013, 03:26 PM   #544
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It's relevant to the stupidity of your "blame Illinois" comment. Kansas deserved a BCS bid...just not over Mizzou. Oklahoma, Mizzou, and Kansas all deserved bids. Hawaii and Illinois didn't. It's a stupid system, and it's gone after this season.
Ok then I'll stipulate that, I won't disagree. Sucks Mizzou got screwed, and I'm sure you'd have felt the same had Kansas got screwed in lieu.
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Old 11-26-2013, 03:34 PM   #545
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You're arguing tangential points and avoiding the concept f "deserving" something. Just because the rule screwed Mizzou, that has zero bearing on whether they or KU were deserving or not. And the Rose has no requirement to take a BIG team, it was simply their choice and they chose IL over Mizzou and Kansas. IL took a spot belonging to both Mizzou and Kansas, period.
LOL WUT? The Rose bowl has pitted the PAC-10(now PAC-12) champ vs the Big 10 champ for decades. The only reason why tOSU did not go was because they were in the NC game. So the Rose took the second best team in the Big 10.

I am not arguing that KU did not deserve a BCS bid. What I am arguing is that they deserved it over a clearly superior Mizzou team.
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Old 11-26-2013, 03:46 PM   #546
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I'll have to see evidence that they were required in any way to take Illinois. I said it was a choice. Are you arguing taking Mizzou or Kansas wasn't allowed?


"Superior"? Lol. Mizzou was 4th in the BCS computer composite KU was 5th. You've got a deranged definition of the term.
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Old 11-26-2013, 03:49 PM   #547
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Ok then I'll stipulate that, I won't disagree. Sucks Mizzou got screwed, and I'm sure you'd have felt the same had Kansas got screwed in lieu.
Kansas would also have been screwed by that rule. They were certainly more deserving than Illinois.
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I'll have to see evidence that they were required in any way to take Illinois. I said it was a choice. Are you arguing taking Mizzou or Kansas wasn't allowed?


"Superior"? Lol. Mizzou was 4th in the BCS computer composite KU was 5th. You've got a deranged definition of the term.
Not giving evidence for you as this is your thing. You make some stupid statement and when someone calls you out on it you demand proof. All I will say is the Rose ALWAYS and I mean ALWAYS takes a Pac team and a Big 10 team. ALWAYS. Unless you can show proof of a time this did not happen then this discussion is pointless.

Also one team won the Big 12 North, played in the Big 12 Championship game and won the head to head matchup against the other team. Which team was that? KU coasted to that ranking while beating no one and when they finally played a good team they got beat on a national stage. With their record they deserved a BCS game, but to think that Missouri was not the superior team in spite of everything that proves otherwise is foolish.
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I'll have to see evidence that they were required in any way to take Illinois. I said it was a choice. Are you arguing taking Mizzou or Kansas wasn't allowed?


"Superior"? Lol. Mizzou was 4th in the BCS computer composite KU was 5th. You've got a deranged definition of the term.
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In some years, perhaps one of every three, the Rose will be a semifinal playoff game. In other years, it will host the champions from the Big Ten and Pac-12 -- unless one or both makes the playoffs. In that case, the second-best team from the league will play for the Roses.
The Big 10 champ has gone to the Rose Bowl since the 40s. Anybody with a basic understanding of college football knows this. The only change that has ever been made to this was with the berth of the BCS, where the 2nd best team in the Big 10 is contractually tied to the Rose Bowl unless a 'higher ranking' bowl takes that team first, at which time the tie-in with the Big 10 is gone outright. (This has happened once)

But leave it to your dumb ass to not know any of this and demand others do your home work for you.

You are militantly uninformed.
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The Big 10 champ has gone to the Rose Bowl since the 40s. Anybody with a basic understanding of college football knows this. The only change that has ever been made to this was with the berth of the BCS, where the 2nd best team in the Big 10 is contractually tied to the Rose Bowl unless a 'higher ranking' bowl takes that team first, at which time the tie-in with the Big 10 is gone outright. (This has happened once)

But leave it to your dumb ass to not know any of this and demand others do your home work for you.

You are militantly uninformed.
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Our schedule next year is very interesting.

FCS team at home

Toledo on the road could be a tough test

UCF at home will be a bitch. They seem to be bringing back everyone unless Bortles declares for the draft.

Indiana in Columbia should be a win.

At South Carolina will be huge, but they lose Shaw and Clowney

After the bye, we get Georgia at home. They lose Murray. It will be a tough game, but we should be favored.

If we can get through those games with no more than one loss, we should be in great shape to win the East again.

Florida is going to be better, but we should still win at the Swamp.

Vandy and Kentucky at home should be wins.

We get a bye before going to aTm. I don't know what to make of that game. They won't have Manziel, and they might not have Evans or even Sumlin. That's a coin flip.

Tennessee and Arkansas to finish up should be wins.

If we can win at South Carolina, the East is there for the taking.
Mizzou can't win in the SEC.

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He's right. Jeff Withey can't play in the NBA. He's getting 6 minutes a game on the worst team in the league.

There's a good chance that English plays more career NBA minutes than Jeff Withey does.

EDIT: In games he plays, he gets roughly 6 minutes. He only plays in about half the games. So really, he's getting 3 minutes/gm. So yeah, I don't imagine English's opinion on Withey has changed much.
He's out of the league.
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I'll have to see evidence that they were required in any way to take Illinois. I said it was a choice. Are you arguing taking Mizzou or Kansas wasn't allowed?


"Superior"? Lol. Mizzou was 4th in the BCS computer composite KU was 5th. You've got a deranged definition of the term.
They weren't required it is just their preference when possible to keep the RB as Big Ten/PAC10/12.
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He's out of the league.
And?

What's Kim English's ability to play in the league have to do with his assessment that Withey can't? He's right - Withey isn't an NBA basketball player.

And right now English has about 400 career NBA minutes on his ledger. Jeff Withey, through 14 team games, has 43. So at this pace Jeff Withey will have to be on an NBA roster for 130 games.

That could happen, but I wouldn't put an appreciable amount of money on it.

Jeff will be joining English in Europe soon enough.
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