I'm going to make a lot of you ill with this thread

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I wanted Geno Smith as much as anyone here. But I'm an it is what it is guy. So I started last night trying to find some kind of bright side to this whole fiasco. I've written the following piece, and am looking forward to being skewered for it.

The Alex Smith Experiment

Let it be known, I was in mourning all day yesterday. I had hitched my wagons so tightly to Geno Smith or some other young, QB stud coming out of this year's draft class that I never could bring myself to believe that the brilliant Andy Reid, and John Dorsey would actually trade for Alex Smith. Then they did. And I was crushed. I whined, complained, and proclaimed I could no longer care about this team. But I was born and raised inside the walls of this Kingdom. I could never pack my bags and walk away.

So I started thinking about what all of this meant. The first thing that came to mind was that it was obvious our new leadership didn't see what I saw in this year's crop of field generals. They agreed with the majority of people out there saying there was very, very little to be excited about out of the QB's entering the NFL this year. It also occurred to me that they must have thought very highly of Alex Smith considering the compensation that is being rumored to be given up for him. And I wondered if all the work we put in with Save Our Chiefs last year was in vein.

I mean, we've seen this movie. Over, and over, and over again. This is the 5th 49er retread this franchise has brought in for us over the last 25 years. And the great Joe Montana was the only one that has provided us with a playoff win. So naturally my thought process was “Here we go again! New Chiefs, same as the old Chiefs!”

Then I started doing my homework and watching the last couple of years of Alex Smith. This is a what have you done for me lately league, so I wasn't really worried about his first few years in the league. Coaching changes year after year, and no real continuity was what greeted him to the league. Jim Harbaugh came in and 2011 Alex Smith made some instant strides. I saw some things out of him that have now convinced me that this time the sequel could be better than the original. Here are some reasons I believe Alex Smith can help lead us to the promised land.

1. Leadership. Probably the most important thing a QB has to have, and something that has lacked in KC for the last couple of years. 2012 was a huge indicator of that. The Chiefs didn't believe in their QB and their play reflected it. On both sides of the ball. Alex Smith didn't have a contract with the 49ers the year of the lockout. Yet it was widely reported he still got his hands on Jim Harbaugh's new playbook and organized practices with his teammates. They rallied around him, and the proof is in the pudding. A muffed punt away from the Super Bowl.

2. Clutch. He has it. Tons of it. The biggest indicator was in his first playoff game. Back and forth, and they fell behind with around a minute left in the game. Alex marched them down the field and on a 3rd and 3 with his team in field goal position, he made his best pass of the entire game to score the game winning TD. On the biggest stage of his life. His coach could've easily played it safe and went for over time, but he believed in Alex. And that belief paid off with a win.

3. Field awareness. I watched a lot of tape. When Alex got loose of the pocket and had to scramble, he knew where the first down marker was. I watched him twist, and turn. Take hits, and deliver hits to get to that first down marker. No fetal position from Alex Smith. He went for it. Consistantly.

4. Progressions. I watched him go through progressions when he needed too. I haven't seen a lot of Alex locking onto a guy and just winging it in there regardless of coverage. That said, I've also seen him wing that ball in between two defenders where only his guy can catch the ball. And there's enough strength in his throws that the ball is there before the defender can respond too it.

5. Coaching. It took an elite coach to get the very best out of Alex Smith. And when he received that, he excelled instantaneously. What better coach, or situation could Alex Smith go to right now and replicate that success? There isn't one. This is it. Coach Reid, and our squad has the talent to put around Alex, and the ability to give him further insight, and tutilege to enhance, and grow his game.

6. Intangibles. This guy has a fire burning inside of him right now. He finally, finally got a head coach who was able to work with him, and he learned the system. He took his team to the brink of the Super Bowl and didn't get there due to no fault of his own. The very moment he was hurt, he was yanked, replaced, and watched his team go to the same spot that he himself probably could've led them too. He's the hungriest man in professional football right now, maybe in all of professional sports. He has something to prove, and he has a chip on his shoulder. And the way he conducted himself throughout that entire process as it unfolded last year was the mark of a leader.

7. History. Time and time again we've seen the stats that 1st round QB's win Super Bowls. We have not only a 1st round QB in Alex, but the very first pick in the draft. This is what we all wanted. Not how we envisioned it, but history is now on our side.

So there you have it. I've gone through mourning, and I've done my homework. I believe in our coach, and our new general manager, and I do not believe this in any way, shape, or form is remniscent of Scott *****, and the moves he made when he came to Kansas City. And I think that is truly our biggest fear. Because this move looks SO closely like the one Scooter made when he came to town, that we are all going to be relegated to that kind of failure over the next half decade.

I just don't think so. I think we have a former number 1 overall pick, that was the consensus number 1 at the time. This isn't a guy who backed up Matt Leinart in college. He played, and he played well. And again, this is a what have you done for me lately league. Alex has grown immensely in the last 2-3 years and has shown he has the ability to make the plays, make the throws, use his legs, and win when the game is on the line.

This is the new face of the franchise. Join me in optimism. Let this Kingdom stand tall, and proud, and root our warriors onto victory. We have our field general. And he's proven recently that he has the ability to lead our troops to victory.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

You aren't a ****ing Chiefs so go **** yourself.

Im not a what? Stop, relax, breathe, then try again. You are too angry dude. Seriously. breathe...... <- thats you right now....

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan

Im not a what? Stop, relax, breathe, then try again. You are too angry dude. Seriously. breathe...... <- thats you right now....

No you are not and never will be. So don't act like one.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

No you are not and never will be. So don't act like one.

Lol, says who?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

my god niner fans are just ****ing hideous-tarded. Like, elephant man meets simple jack-tarded.
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[|Zach|]

Originally Posted by TribalElder

From first time STH on the lower level

To the 65" screen in front of the couch

It will only cost me 10% for a refund

Stay Classy Clark Hunt

[ItsABeautifulDay]

Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie

my god niner fans are just ****ing hideous-tarded. Like, elephant man meets simple jack-tarded.
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It makes my eyes rain.

[Spott]

Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan

No offense sir douche, but i dont like the royals.......You arent handling anything here. im a guy who doesnt get rattled, i dont care what you think and ill enjoy watching alex smith helping the chiefs to the playoffs this year while you sit all red faced.

Go back to the Niners board dipshit.

[NCommand]

Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma

Gotta be honest here, the 49er faithful on this board collectively has poor grammar and really bad points.

Bwahahaha. Hilarious...sums up the mass majority of the fan base in here.

[NCommand]

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

I haven't really commented on the trade yet (not that anyone here cares.) But Floppy's note made me think a little, and here's where I come down on it:

1. The compensation package reportedly given sucks. It sucks to lose a 2nd, and I wouldn't care so much about next year but it almost feels like the Myers/Shields trade to me, where I initially felt like they should have given US more and not us giving THEM more. I do worry about what we are giving up in this draft.

2. But, like proven starting pitching in baseball, QB is king. And where you have a guy who has proven to be a good starting QB in the NFL, you're going to overpay. I still hope there's more coming back to us at the end of it all, but I'm forcing myself to accept that it's the worst possible case scenario (2 2nds) so I can be nothing but pleasantly surprised when/if it's more.

3. I would be a lot more pissed if this was another case of inbreeding. Say, Michael Vick/Nick Foles (Reid connection)...or even Matt Flynn (Dorsey connection). This is a guy that's never played under either. That both reportedly love what they see in him tells me that there is objectively good stuff coming our way, and not just connections.

4. The offseason is yet incomplete, so I'm not going to freak out yet. I really hope we move down. I don't think we'll find a buyer, though. That said, I really hope we don't blow it on a left tackle and let a perfectly good one go out the door. We need more playmakers....I'd be less upset about Anzah/Jordan/Milliner/T. Austin/Patterson than I would Joeckel.

5. I really hoped this was the year we got our franchise QB #1. And I suppose that if we don't extend A. Smith and feel like Geno Smith IS BPA but not ready to play in the NFL yet, that it could happen. But without a 2nd, and in a league where your #1 has to make immediate high-impact contributions, that's probably wishful thinking.

I'm ready to see how this works. And I'm glad to see that our front office is going out and getting the guy they want. Now whether that's the right call or not is completely on them.

Nice post...nice to see an IQ poster in here. You had the Jets, Raiders, Chiefs Browns, etc. and a host of others all after Alex. Reid is a QB guru and now has a QB that will fit his system perfectly. Just be patient.

BTW: We have sucked on 3rd down for ages now (not great with CK either). That said, Alex and this offense was #1 in around 62% on first down production of 4+ yards (52% under CK). He'll make all the right reads, get the running game checks perfectly, make high percentage throws and will LOVE finally having a WR like Bowe. If you have/get a true WCO TE and with your 1,500 runner, Alex will play action all day long.

I'd expect Reid to pass much more and be much more creative...we still have lots of concerns about Roman as our OC. This should please the fantasy football generation.

FYI: When did our defense fall off? 1) When CK started and started throwing/running/scoring quickly and 2) Justin Smith got hurt.

Alex will control the TOP and keep your defense rested and the oppositions QB on the sideline. He was also one of the very best RZ QB's (until Roman came in - you saw the final 4 plays of the Superbowl as further evidence). No surprise Alex was leading QBR with 1.5 years under the SAME offense for the first time of his career. Be patient...and good luck!

[HolyHandgernade]

I know KC wanted to get "their own guy", I just don't think that player was there. Maybe there's a gem in the later rounds to develop, but not to come in this year. Its not Alex's fault he has to come into this toxic situation created by years of QB frustration in KC. But, I like this move better than I liked the Cassel move a few years back when it happened.

Smith has a much better pedigree and I think he was the absolute best decision considering the circumstances we had to work with this year. I trust Reid much more than any HC we've had since Vermeil and his reputation with QBs is top notch. If he believes this gives him the best chance to win, I'm willing to roll with it.

Not at all against those who hate it and will never like it, I understand it to a degree. But, I'm optimistic about the Alex Smith trade. I was "hopeful" of Cassel, but never optimistic.

[NCommand]

Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade

I know KC wanted to get "their own guy", I just don't think that player was there. Maybe there's a gem in the later rounds to develop, but not to come in this year. Its not Alex's fault he has to come into this toxic situation created by years of QB frustration in KC. But, I like this move better than I liked the Cassel move a few years back when it happened.

Smith has a much better pedigree and I think he was the absolute best decision considering the circumstances we had to work with this year. I trust Reid much more than any HC we've had since Vermeil and his reputation with QBs is top notch. If he believes this gives him the best chance to win, I'm willing to roll with it.

Not at all against those who hate it and will never like it, I understand it to a degree. But, I'm optimistic about the Alex Smith trade. I was "hopeful" of Cassel, but never optimistic.

Good outlook. And like you said, Reid knows QB's and esp. WCO QB's (no, Vick is NOT a WCO though). He may be able to find another good fit WCO in the later rounds and develop him. You still hold many cards at the #1 pick....maybe you get an offer. If this FO makes a few more moves, you're already an 8-8 team right out of the gate and should continue to get better and better as the offense evolves together. That said, it takes a MINIMUM of 3 years to install a proper WCO. And Alex is one guy who already knows it like the back of his hand and even teach others (see, Camp Alex). That is a MAJOR plus over starting a guy such as Geno Smith right out of the gate (wasn't good for Alex and Rodgers got to sit three years behind Favre).

That said, it sounds more like the defense is the bigger issue. That is where the focus may need to be once your fans get off the hate-the-world train.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan

Hes john david booty. he is garbage. He has almost no arm strength. hes gonna be a worse pro than matt cassell. yet you suck his dick. Dont talk to me about qb worship. I understand fully alex smiths limitations. I understand that him winning games is not his deal. But he doesnt lose them either. I understand that why he is here, is to help andy reid groom his qbotf. I also understand that matt barkley is such a bitch, that he didnt want to work out at the combine because he would of been EXPOSED by the other arms in the draft class. So if your problem with me is that i respect alex smith, well guess what bitch. enjoy watching him on sunday.

What the shit is this shit?

[HolyHandgernade]

It better take less than 3 years, and hopefully better than .500, or Alex won't see Year 3. They didn't bring Andy in for a 3 year plan to get back to the playoffs. They didn't trade high for Alex to get back to .500. They expect to win now, and anything less is unacceptable.

This isn't college where you hope to build your program up by Year 3. These are pros, some elite level pros. Reid knows it. He didn't push this for fans to be patient with winning.

[philfree]

I'm still not happy about it but I don't hate Alex Smith. It's not his fault and actually I think he got screwed over by Harbaugh last year. After several years of struggling Smith was getting it and playing well. I'm pretty sure most people figured his play would fall back off after 2011 but it didn't and he actually improved. Then he was benched on the way to the SB. What a kick in the pants. He has something to prove and I'm rooting for him to prove it.

(What am I gonna do? Hope to lose enough games to get the 1st pick in the draft so we can draft the best QB?LOL)

Along with that I'm hoping Reid and Dorsey can trade down in the draft and make some good picks to offset giving up the #34. They also need to draft a QBOTF prospect. Good moves in the draft might soften the blow of not drafting Geno Smith with our 1st overall pick.

[NCommand]

Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade

It better take less than 3 years, and hopefully better than .500, or Alex won't see Year 3. They didn't bring Andy in for a 3 year plan to get back to the playoffs. They didn't trade high for Alex to get back to .500. They expect to win now, and anything less is unacceptable.

This isn't college where you hope to build your program up by Year 3. These are pros, some elite level pros. Reid knows it. He didn't push this for fans to be patient with winning.

Agreed...but I'm talking about the REST of your offense. It's a very complex system and expect some wrong routes run, incorrect blocking schemes, etc. Alex is ready now but HE and REID will have to be patient with the offense around them. Also, expect some interesting picks in the draft...players that fit the WCO mold better. They may not be the popular pick but ideal for Reid's system. Not that that fair warning won't prevent further Cheif's Planet meltdowns but something to keep in mind...