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Old 10-30-2013, 05:07 PM  
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Miami's Martin leaves team after 'emotional breakdown'
Jonathan Martin leaves Dolphins after 'breakdown'

By Dan Hanzus
Around the League Writer
Published: Oct. 30, 2013 at 06:39 p.m. Updated: Oct. 30, 2013 at 07:00 p.m.
An unusual situation is unfolding in Miami, where Dolphins right tackle Jonathan Martin has left the team after suffering an "emotional breakdown" this week.

NFL Media's Jeff Darlington reported Wednesday that Martin is currently seeking help with his family after an incident at the team's cafeteria, according to team sources.

Martin is listed on the team's injury report with an illness, and is doubtful to play Thursday against the Cincinnati Bengals. Fox NFL insider Jay Glazer reported that Martin was the victim of a prank at the cafeteria, becoming enraged enough to "smash his food tray on the ground."

The second-year pro has not been with the team since that time. Darlington reports that Martin immediately sought treatment at a local hospital. He has since left the hospital and is now spending time with his family, according to team sources.

Martin opened the season as the Dolphins' replacement for Jake Long at left tackle. He was moved to right tackle when the team acquired Bryant McKinnie via trade last week. Tyson Clabo is expected to start in Martin's place on Thursday.

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Old 11-04-2013, 11:20 PM   #556
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Why does it matter if someone talks about it? Is there some reason why this particular characteristic should be kept secret?

If I asked what kind of car Martin drives to the stadium each day, would I have been met with multiple posters asking why it matters? Why bring it up? I doubt it.

The answer to your question (which you would already know if you bothered to read it the handful of other times I've posted it) is yes it matters. It matters because it's a potential motive that would help explain what was going on in that lockerroom. It would have nothing to do with justification, as far as I'm concerned, but it might help explain why it happened.
Whether Incognito was targeting his teammate because of his ethnicity, his sexuality or his automobile, the "why" appears to be only because Incognito is a terrible human being, yes?
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Old 11-04-2013, 11:21 PM   #557
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"Do you guys think that Martin could have been harassed by Incognito because he's gay?"

is not the same as

"In all the articles and web searches you guys have read/done on this issue, have any of you come across any mention of a wife or girlfriend for Jonathan Martin?"
They're different words, certainly. Beyond that, you're finding what you want to find. It's in your head, not mine. I asked a specific question. Specific answers would have been fine. Instead, I found a couple of people with seemingly significant hangups about homosexuality (whether pro-gay or anti-gay). That's on you, not me.
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I just can't help but laugh.

The dude's name is Richie Incognito.

Richie. ****ing. Incognito.

A novelist who was looking for a character name for his fat piece of shit douchebag jock locker room bully couldn't have come up with anything better than that.

It's like the guy who won the World Series of Poker many years ago whose name was Chris Moneymaker. Or Usain Bolt being a world-class sprinter. You have Richie Incognito the douchebag.

Like, here's how good his name is. You could play his voicemail to 100 people who had not heard of this story in the news. And then you could ask them all the following multiple-choice question:

"Based on what you just heard, can you identify the name of this message's sender?
A. Joe Phillips
B. Dennis Philagree
C. Darrell Landers
D. Mike Taylor
E. Richie Incognito"

There wouldn't be a single individual in that group of 100 who wouldn't answer "That last one. Richie Incognito."
Definite anti-Italian undertones in that post right there.
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Definite anti-Italian undertones in that post right there.
I didn't know Richie was Italian.
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Murders, gun trafficking, threatening life crime, bullying, harassment and retaliation, racial slurs and hate crimes, hazing, complaints of extortion, pressure to persuade Martin’s parents to cooperate - What is going on with NFL players?
Remember back in the day when an NFL player just shot himself in the leg in the middle of a club instead of this Breaking Bad NFL player of today? Those were the days.
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Murders, gun trafficking, threatening life crime, bullying, harassment and retaliation, racial slurs and hate crimes, hazing, complaints of extortion, pressure to persuade Martin’s parents to cooperate - What is going on with NFL players?
The 24/7 media cycle is what's going on. I'm sure plenty of bad shit went down in decades past that is forgotten by history because the media wasn't what it is today.
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Whether Incognito was targeting his teammate because of his ethnicity, his sexuality or his automobile, the "why" appears to be only because Incognito is a terrible human being, yes?
Incognito appears to be a terrible human being. I have no doubt about that. But that can't be the complete "why" or he wouldn't have singled one person out as his victim. To be honest though, I'm more interested in the "why" if a group of players were singling Martin out. The racism angle doesn't seem to fly *IF* players like Wallace and Pouncey are in cahoots with or supportive of Incognito.
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I didn't know Richie was Italian.
That's understandable. I didn't know Martin was gay.
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It really wasn't that hard to follow. He was making no logical sense to make a point about making no logical sense.
Are you really this dense or incapable of productive discussion? Rain Man clearly made a post asking whether he should value Mike Wallace's opinion, or not. I said no, in my opinion, I don't think so. There is literally nothing to debate about that. It's not vague at all.

Now you and Saul Good are attempting to team up to question whether my post made logical sense? You guys are either wasting a vast amount of time trolling the board, or have very severe reading comprehension issues. Either option is a bit troubling.
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That's understandable. I didn't know Martin was gay.
You do now apparently
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They're different words, certainly. Beyond that, you're finding what you want to find. It's in your head, not mine. I asked a specific question. Specific answers would have been fine. Instead, I found a couple of people with seemingly significant hangups about homosexuality (whether pro-gay or anti-gay). That's on you, not me.
Who was the guy that Incognito wanted to beat up or got mad at during Hard Knocks?
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As a guy who really likes watching football, I have to say that I hate hearing too much about some of the scumbags who play the damn game.
Agreed. I love football, but I really don't want to meet football players. I'm sure that many of them are great people, but if I was to meet a Chief who was a jerk, it would really damage my enjoyment of the game.

Granted, that's hypothetical since no Chief would ever be a jerk, but you get the drift.
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Remember back in the day when an NFL player just shot himself in the leg in the middle of a club instead of this Breaking Bad NFL player of today? Those were the days.


And it cost that dumbass three years at "Rikers Island--just six miles from the Empire State Building--is one of the largest, most complex and most expensive penal institutions in the world, yet most New Yorkers couldn't find it on a map."
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Who was the guy that Incognito wanted to beat up or got mad at during Hard Knocks?
Too bad it wasn't Bob ****ing Costas.

Does Costas have a wife or a girlfriend?
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