Miami's Martin leaves team after 'emotional breakdown'

[Mr. Laz]

Jonathan Martin leaves Dolphins after 'breakdown'

By Dan Hanzus
Around the League Writer
Published: Oct. 30, 2013 at 06:39 p.m. Updated: Oct. 30, 2013 at 07:00 p.m.
An unusual situation is unfolding in Miami, where Dolphins right tackle Jonathan Martin has left the team after suffering an "emotional breakdown" this week.

NFL Media's Jeff Darlington reported Wednesday that Martin is currently seeking help with his family after an incident at the team's cafeteria, according to team sources.

Martin is listed on the team's injury report with an illness, and is doubtful to play Thursday against the Cincinnati Bengals. Fox NFL insider Jay Glazer reported that Martin was the victim of a prank at the cafeteria, becoming enraged enough to "smash his food tray on the ground."

The second-year pro has not been with the team since that time. Darlington reports that Martin immediately sought treatment at a local hospital. He has since left the hospital and is now spending time with his family, according to team sources.

Martin opened the season as the Dolphins' replacement for Jake Long at left tackle. He was moved to right tackle when the team acquired Bryant McKinnie via trade last week. Tyson Clabo is expected to start in Martin's place on Thursday.

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[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Yet it's the same flawed reasoning.

So, the guy that was kicked off of Nebraska's football team, was kicked off of Oregon's team before ever taking a snap, who has been repeatedly voted as one of the NFL's dirtiest players and left racist, bullying VOICEMAIL messages on a team mate's phone equals your sub five year old children?



JFC, you're a ****ing reerun.

Oh, and Matt Ryan, Mother****er.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

It's a mob demanding a lynching. Call it what you will.

How is this demanding a lynching? It seems to me like essentially everyone in this thread wants the guy to lose his job for continually harassing a fellow employee, threatening him and his family physically, and using racial slurs. He has had five days and has offered no counterargument. He's been using Twitter in the interim. I'm sure he has media swarming his house.

His dad has articulated a defense for him, I guess, so he's got that going for him.

If Ray Lewis left a bunch of VMs on Suzy Kolber's phone calling her a **** and telling her he was going to shit in her mouth and kill her, would firing him be a lynch mob mentality?

[ClevelandBronco]

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

Incognito did 2 things:

1) Used the N word

2) Picked on a gay man(hypothetically speaking until we know for sure)...

See, now that's how a rumor gets started.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by tk13

Not making the bed is equivalent to pouting, child molestation, bullying and potential extortion? That's extremely melodramatic.

What's more...it's flawed reasoning.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

There is a difference between unspeakable and irrelevant. It's understood by literate people, and your attempt to juxtapose the two is transparent sophistry.

Why is your first conclusion to raise his sexual orientation as a question? You've never once answered this question. Why does it matter? We know that Incognito was harassing him because of his race, threatening his family, and threatening Martin. Is there an additional level of dickbag that Incognito needs to unlock?

It's not my first conclusion. As I said in my first post in this thread, my first theory was that Martin's outburst might have been roid rage. That was before much news of the harassment had come out. Someone else raised the question about whether or not Martin might be gay and it struck me as a possible reason why hazing from teammates might last into a guy's second season. It still seems like a viable theory so, since no one had mentioned it and no other explanations have been established, I thought I'd ask if anyone had seen any evidence that would tend to contradict that theory.

We don't know that Incognito was harassing him because of his race (we only know that race was used as an element of the harassment). We don't know why Incognito was harassing him. That's why this and anything else that might explain the "why" remains relevant.

I find your attempts to shout down any attempt to discuss Martin's potential sexuality interesting. Would you have reacted the same way if I had asked about whether or not there was any news about Martin using steroids? I doubt it. You'll have to look inward for the reasons though, because it's not about me.

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

You stated, "I've never seen/heard anything about a wife or girlfriend." The judgment is implicit in the structure of the sentence. If someone were to rape your wife and I asked, "I never heard anyone mention anything about her clothing," what is the difference between the literal meaning of the words and their connotation?

If you can't understand that, you don't have any place in an adult conversation.

That's beyond stupid. First of all, I didn't say what you put in quotes, you lazy moron. I asked if anyone else had seen anything along those lines. Second, the only negative connotation you picked up was created in your own mind. I didn't have a negative thought in my mind when I typed it, I didn't imply anything negative, and nothing about the natural meaning of those words suggests anything negative. If you picked up on the fact that I was wondering if Martin is gay, then hurray for you. If you picked up some idea that I think there's anything negative about being gay, then you need to recalibrate your own head because it's got nothing to do with me. I've got 50,000 posts on this messageboard and you wouldn't be able to find anti-gay lifestyle posts among them. I'm the most gay friendly straight male you can find. And I'm not afraid to talk about it as an acceptable human behavior like you appear to be.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by GoChargers

Yes, it's kind of extreme, but my point is that Wallace hasn't exactly demonstrated that he knows how to avoid being a distraction in the locker room himself, so his credibility is very low on this topic.

Do you think that his history suggests that he's the kind of uncle tom that would support a racist? Is his credibility that low?

[Dylan]

I wonder if Mike Pouncey will be the next Dolphin to be suspended.

Interesting stuff from CBS Sports: “Dolphins guard Richie Incognito, according to sources, was ‘the ring-leader,’ of the ongoing bullying, acting particularly “menacing” toward Martin, while center Mike Pounce was also involved.”

Meanwhile, Pounce was served with a subpoena in Aaron Hernandez case to hand over emails and bank records in involvement of suspected gun trafficking.


According to the Miami Herald:

Word emerged of a series of inflammatory message board posts on a fan forum by a person believed to be Incognito’s father, Richard, in which he made some incendiary comments about the Dolphins’ leadership and portrayed Martin as unstable.

Efforts to reach Richie Incognito and his father for comment were unsuccessful.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/11/0...#storylink=cpy

[Rain Man]

I've kind of lost track about who's on which side, and I can't tell from the posts. I find that funny.

Originally Posted by Saul Good

My daughter said the bus driver was touching her little brother inappropriately...but she also forgets to make her bed sometimes...so I shouldn't bother looking into it.

Now I have an understanding why you have such difficulty comprehending some of my explanations. I will try to make no logical sense in the future.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Dylan

I wonder if Mike Pouncey will be the next Dolphin to be suspended.

Interesting stuff from CBS Sports: “Dolphins guard Richie Incognito, according to sources, was ‘the ring-leader,’ of the ongoing bullying, acting particularly “menacing” toward Martin, while center Mike Pounce was also involved.”

Meanwhile, Pounce was served with a subpoena in Aaron Hernandez case to hand over emails and bank records in involvement of suspected gun trafficking.


According to the Miami Herald:


Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/11/0...#storylink=cpy

When the entire offensive line gets suspended, it's the quarterback who suffers.

Originally Posted by patteeu

I'm the most gay friendly straight male you can find.

Some of my best friends are gay.

[ClevelandBronco]

As a guy who really likes watching football, I have to say that I hate hearing too much about some of the scumbags who play the damn game.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by tk13

Feigning disgust isn't going to make it any less accurate or even address the point at hand. Mike Wallace has not exactly been the shining beacon of maturity. Good try, good effort.

The facepalm was meant to express incredulity, not disgust. I deleted it though because I thought your post was kind of an insignificant point. Since I've already addressed the Mike Wallace issue, I'll go back to the guys who find the discussion of homosexuality scary now.

[The Franchise]

In 2009, Incognito was voted the dirtiest player in the NFL by the players

[tk13]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

I've kind of lost track about who's on which side, and I can't tell from the posts. I find that funny.

I'm not even on any side. I don't think we know all the facts yet... so he shouldn't be cut. I think some of the responses in this thread though are borderline disturbing though.