Royals 2012 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 382

**alnorth** · 10:54 PM

2012 Slogan: Our Time

A better, more accurate 2012 Slogan: It is Finally Next Year
(from Great Expectations)

An alternative slogan if you don't like that one: Someone has to win this crappy division
(from alnorth)

With the beginning of a new year, it is time for the 2012 version of the Royals Repository Thread. We've got Hosmer, we've got a 2011-dominating Gordon, we've got Moose, we've got hopefully a killer bullpen, we've got a stereotypical slow slugging DH, we've got easily one of the best defensive shortstops in the AL, we've got a promising catcher in Salvador Perez. Hell, we've got offense and promising prospects galore.

We do not have starting pitching.

Oh yeah, we've also got this:

Get ready for, (as of January 2012 anyway), one of the most confusing puzzles of a baseball season in recent Royals history. Will they suck? Maybe, I don't know. Will we be given a year of 0.500 baseball? Possibly, I don't know. Will they win the division and go to the playoffs for the first time in 27 years? For the first time in a long time, it could happen, I don't know. 92 losses, 92 wins, or anything in between would not surprise a lot of us.

Everything goes here except Gameday threads and really big news. If a giant story breaks, the Royals achieve some awesome milestone, or we sign/lose a highly significant player/coach/mascot/whatever, then it might also deserve its own thread. This being Chiefs Planet, please do not clutter the board with new threads about trivial Royals news or you will only annoy those who come here for just Chiefs football. If you aren't sure and its not a Gameday thread, it goes here.

What sort of stuff often goes here? SPchief explained it well, so I'll just copy that:

Quote:

If you locate something of interest.. ANYTHING.. deals on apparel, best ways in/out of the stadium, giveaways, great stories from this season or from seasons gone by, rumors, trades, anything.... feel free to post it here.

KevB · 07-20-2012, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Guthrie's peripheral numbers look like shit, so I'm not considering taking on someone else's trash and salary as any type of win.

Not sure how you can't consider this a win, albeit fairly meaningless most likely. Prior to Colorado, they guy was putting in 200 innings with a positive WAR. It's better than Sanchez, and better than some other current options. Is he a part of the rotation when/if we compete for a division. Nope. But in context, I'll take it.

Mr. Laz · 07-20-2012, 10:46 AM

The Royals are believed to be paying roughly $1.1 million in the exchange of contracts, but they have the ability to control Guthrie, through an arbitration offer, for 2013. Sánchez will be a free agent after the season.

sedated · 07-20-2012, 10:47 AM

Well, its...something.

Great Expectations · 07-20-2012, 10:48 AM

For $1MM and the chance to have a guy pitch 7 innings the right move was made.

**DeezNutz** · 07-20-2012, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz

The Royals are believed to be paying roughly $1.1 million in the exchange of contracts, but they have the ability to control Guthrie, through an arbitration offer, for 2013. Sánchez will be a free agent after the season.

Whispers of classic Royals move, if this becomes one of our anticipated starters for next year.

I'm all for hoping for lightning in a bottle, but if we're expecting it? Damn. Hope not.

Mr. Laz · 07-20-2012, 10:50 AM

the willing to take on more money for even the slightest chance of improving ...

not bad

ShowtimeSBMVP · 07-20-2012, 10:56 AM

greg schaum ‏@Greg_Schaum

Now for the bad news: 2011 Royals organizational P of the year Greg Billo will have Tommy John Surgery. He was 9-5 w/ a 1.93 e.r.a in 2011

Great Expectations · 07-20-2012, 11:03 AM

Better now than in 2 years, have we had way more of these than anybody else?

Ceej · 07-20-2012, 11:15 AM

Royals TJ surgeries = Chiefs ACL injuries last year?

Yeesh.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 07-20-2012, 11:19 AM

Brewers offered Greinke $100M-plus but signs suggest he'll become a free agent

By Jon Heyman | Baseball Insider
July 20, 2012 12:40 pm ET

4 | Comments

Greinke will most likely wind up a free agent. (Getty Images)

The Brewers offered star righthanded pitcher Zack Greinke a $100-million-plus, five-year deal sometime within the past few weeks, but there's nothing yet to indicate he will sign quickly and give up free agency, people familiar with the talks told CBSSports.com.

The quiet Greinke offer, which is said to have come more than a week ago, was said by one person to have been for close to the $112.5-million, five-year extension Matt Cain signed and may have even replicated it (though Cain's total could be looked at as $127.5 million since he had a year to go at $15 million when he signed the extension this spring). Greinke is expected to hit the free-agent market, which would give him a chance to look around.

Star players rarely sign deals with their current teams with only a few months to go before free agency. Brewers GM Doug Melvin has acknowledged the difficulties of overcoming the free-agent plans of big-time players.

Greinke, 9-3 with a 3.57 ERA (the ERA was 2.82 before his three straight starts) is also a player who puts winning above all else, and came to Milwaukee after turning down a chance to sign with the Nationals for $100 million two years ago, a decision that looked very prescient when the Brewers made the playoffs last year.

The Braves, White Sox, Angels, Rangers, Orioles and others are expected to be interested in Greinke as a trade target. He has had to skip a start after feeling less than his best following three straight starts for the Brewers, which could conceivably complicate his trade market, as teams will want to see him pitch. He is scheduled to start Tuesday in Philadelphia.

Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS

#brewers did offer Zack Greinke $100M PLUS (maybe even $112.5M). but signs say hell be free agent. http://cbsprt.co/PqY3YD

Greinke is crazy to turn that kind of money down.

mr. tegu · 07-20-2012, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Brewers offered Greinke $100M-plus but signs suggest he'll become a free agent

By Jon Heyman | Baseball Insider
July 20, 2012 12:40 pm ET

4 | Comments

Greinke will most likely wind up a free agent. (Getty Images)

The Brewers offered star righthanded pitcher Zack Greinke a $100-million-plus, five-year deal sometime within the past few weeks, but there's nothing yet to indicate he will sign quickly and give up free agency, people familiar with the talks told CBSSports.com.

The quiet Greinke offer, which is said to have come more than a week ago, was said by one person to have been for close to the $112.5-million, five-year extension Matt Cain signed and may have even replicated it (though Cain's total could be looked at as $127.5 million since he had a year to go at $15 million when he signed the extension this spring). Greinke is expected to hit the free-agent market, which would give him a chance to look around.

Star players rarely sign deals with their current teams with only a few months to go before free agency. Brewers GM Doug Melvin has acknowledged the difficulties of overcoming the free-agent plans of big-time players.

Greinke, 9-3 with a 3.57 ERA (the ERA was 2.82 before his three straight starts) is also a player who puts winning above all else, and came to Milwaukee after turning down a chance to sign with the Nationals for $100 million two years ago, a decision that looked very prescient when the Brewers made the playoffs last year.

The Braves, White Sox, Angels, Rangers, Orioles and others are expected to be interested in Greinke as a trade target. He has had to skip a start after feeling less than his best following three straight starts for the Brewers, which could conceivably complicate his trade market, as teams will want to see him pitch. He is scheduled to start Tuesday in Philadelphia.

Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS

#brewers did offer Zack Greinke $100M PLUS (maybe even $112.5M). but signs say hell be free agent. http://cbsprt.co/PqY3YD

Greinke is crazy to turn that kind of money down.

Greinke knows the Brewers window to win has passed. I imagine he wants to see if he can get on a winner. If not he can always go back.

**gblowfish** · 07-20-2012, 11:36 AM

Greinke is going all Johnny Damon on us. Show me the money!

Demonpenz · 07-20-2012, 12:08 PM

I am cool with the Woody Guthrie move!

Discuss Thrower · 07-20-2012, 12:18 PM

You can get anything you want, at Kauffman's restaurant...

stonedstooge · 07-20-2012, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

You can get anything you want, at Kauffman's restaurant...

Arlo's in the deal too? A joint venture with Gordon to open Alice's Restaurant on the Plaza coming soon?

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07-20-2012, 11:19 AM	#5725
ShowtimeSBMVP Chiefs Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $3436009	Brewers offered Greinke $100M-plus but signs suggest he'll become a free agent By Jon Heyman \| Baseball Insider July 20, 2012 12:40 pm ET 4 \| Comments Greinke will most likely wind up a free agent. (Getty Images) The Brewers offered star righthanded pitcher Zack Greinke a $100-million-plus, five-year deal sometime within the past few weeks, but there's nothing yet to indicate he will sign quickly and give up free agency, people familiar with the talks told CBSSports.com. The quiet Greinke offer, which is said to have come more than a week ago, was said by one person to have been for close to the $112.5-million, five-year extension Matt Cain signed and may have even replicated it (though Cain's total could be looked at as $127.5 million since he had a year to go at $15 million when he signed the extension this spring). Greinke is expected to hit the free-agent market, which would give him a chance to look around. Star players rarely sign deals with their current teams with only a few months to go before free agency. Brewers GM Doug Melvin has acknowledged the difficulties of overcoming the free-agent plans of big-time players. Greinke, 9-3 with a 3.57 ERA (the ERA was 2.82 before his three straight starts) is also a player who puts winning above all else, and came to Milwaukee after turning down a chance to sign with the Nationals for $100 million two years ago, a decision that looked very prescient when the Brewers made the playoffs last year. The Braves, White Sox, Angels, Rangers, Orioles and others are expected to be interested in Greinke as a trade target. He has had to skip a start after feeling less than his best following three straight starts for the Brewers, which could conceivably complicate his trade market, as teams will want to see him pitch. He is scheduled to start Tuesday in Philadelphia. Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS #brewers did offer Zack Greinke $100M PLUS (maybe even $112.5M). but signs say hell be free agent. http://cbsprt.co/PqY3YD Greinke is crazy to turn that kind of money down.
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