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Old 03-31-2011, 09:32 AM  
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**** OFFICIAL 2011-2012 Kansas Basketball Repository Thread ****
2011-12 Kansas Men’s Basketball (29-6,17-3)
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Big 12 Champions


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Old 03-14-2012, 10:25 PM   #5896
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Its just a tourney birth. Its really nothing to celebrate to that extent for damn sure.
Depends on how high your standards are.
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Old 03-14-2012, 10:25 PM   #5897
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We already know they didn't win a championship 90 years ago. No need for a time machine for that. There was no championship 90 years ago.
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Old 03-14-2012, 10:25 PM   #5898
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Yeah, I know, it just seems a bit easier to believe when someone does it while those players are still alive, and continues to hand out awards for another 50 years... as opposed to some guy who did it 70 years later. I assume the original banners at AFH went up when it opened, which is a little different than some guy in 1993 or whatever saying "hey look, some guy made us champions 70 years ago, let's hang a banner!"

Considering CFB still largely determines it's NC based on polls, I don't think it's a stretch to conclude people might have found merit in the Helms Foundation in the 30s... and considering when you Google Premo Power Polls, half the results are from Missouri Tigers websites, I'm thinking it might not carry quite the same weight.


And I'm sure this post comes off like I take pride in those mythical NCs, but I'm just saying the reasons Missouri doesn't hang banners 70 years after the fact are completely different than why KU would hang them 10 years after the fact (or 30 years, when AFH opened)*, even though it's no surprise MU fans would take the opportunity to act like they're better than that or something. Shocked.


*if KU hung the original banners in like 1984, then yeah, that's kind of lame
Bill Self had the banners altered to remove the "Helms" designation.
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Old 03-14-2012, 10:26 PM   #5899
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I know that....I'm talking appearances. MU has NIT banners that hang in the rafters. (at least they used to in Hearnes Center). Havent been to a game in the Paige for a while so my memory is blank at the moment.
Those were for the women's teams.
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Old 03-14-2012, 10:29 PM   #5900
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just leave dude. You're getting wrecked
Yeah. The guy who said that college football determines champions by having bankers vote 30 years later really outsmarted me.

I didn't know people still said "pwnt", by the way. Is that still common in New Jersey?
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Old 03-14-2012, 10:33 PM   #5901
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Yeah. The guy who said that college football determines champions by having bankers vote 30 years later really outsmarted me.

I didn't know people still said "pwnt", by the way. Is that still common in New Jersey?
You're trying to argue something that most KU fans don't even care about.

It doesn't make any sense.

And then people who don't even care and might actually agree with you end up making your arguments look like swiss cheese.

It's like the pwners are having a pwnt-off at your expense.

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Bill Self had the banners altered to remove the "Helms" designation.
I like the change.


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Old 03-15-2012, 06:20 AM   #5903
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I'll talk to my friend over at the AD, see if he could go ahead and run all of his decisions through Saul. After all, his ivory tower is really shiny.
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Old 03-15-2012, 06:36 AM   #5904
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Wasn't Helms' methodology primarily interviewing most of the contemporaries to the events and using their opinions, the box scores and such data that was available at the time to determine their champions? So pretty much like what we do in college football right now.

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He's going to wait 30 years, then hire some bankers to review the thread to determine that he won.
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the most notable of the pre-tournament era selections, and the only ones listed in the Official NCAA Men's Basketball Records Book, are those from the Helms Athletic Foundation.[3] However, only the champions of its own post-season tournament are counted towards official NCAA National Championship totals.
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Bill Self had the banners altered to remove the "Helms" designation.
Doesn't your team have MVP banners up that were assigned by the Helms foundation?
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