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Deberg_1990 · 10-06-2004, 04:29 PM

I figured I would start a thread for this and see what happens....there seemed to be quite a few viewers on the board for this show the past few weeks.....I like the direction the show is taking so far......episode 3 tonight at 7 central on ABC....

Red Brooklyn · 06-17-2010, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

Yay! And I didn't say that to slam Lost by any means. I said that because when I finish the series and don't proclaim Lost to be in the upper echelon of TV dramas (which, so far, it isn't - though certainly among the best dramas to appear on major network TV) I want you to know why.

I'm with you, man. I have a lot of friends that echo your sentiments here. Most of them are big TV watchers and cringe a little bit when I tell them I think LOST is the best TV show of all time.

Of course, I always try to clarify that comment by saying, "well... at least the best show that I've ever seen, and I haven't seen a lot."

My wife and I both have a short list of shows we want to check out ASAP. Of course the one's you listed and Deadwood. Maybe once I've seen those I'll have a different oppinion of LOST.

**Buck** · 06-17-2010, 10:31 AM

I'm not gonna lie. Guys like Reaper and irishjayhawk are definitely smarter than me, and they focus on shit I wouldn't even think about. Sometimes when I read your posts I think you are being uppity or whatever, but you just are in a different frame of mind.

I take it as pure entertainment level, as opposed to looking at the bigger meanings of things.

Red Brooklyn · 06-17-2010, 10:34 AM

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And, subsequently, literary critics rarely regard those kinds of books/series positively, fwiw.

Fair enough.

So since you're helping me expand my TV viewing, perhaps you can help expand my literary knowledge as well. Is there a series you have in mind that you (and literary critics) would regard highly and that you think has a more successful structure than LOST? I mean, one that does what you're saying and is self contained and a part of a larger whole?

**Buck** · 06-17-2010, 10:36 AM

And also Red Brooklyn.

You son of a gun.

This guy right here would get on here right after the episode and point out at least 10 things I missed every time.

**Reaper16** · 06-17-2010, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Buck

I'm not gonna lie. Guys like Reaper and irishjayhawk are definitely smarter than me, and they focus on shit I wouldn't even think about. Sometimes when I read your posts I think you are being uppity or whatever, but you just are in a different frame of mind.

I take it as pure entertainment level, as opposed to looking at the bigger meanings of things.

"uppity or whatever"

I like that description.

Yeah, I am assessing Lost as I assess all fictionalized TV shows - as art and as art in the specific medium of television. Entertainment is a part of that but by no means the only part.

**Buck** · 06-17-2010, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

"uppity or whatever"

I like that description.

Yeah, I am assessing Lost as I assess all fictionalized TV shows - as art and as art in the specific medium of television. Entertainment is a part of that but by no means the only part.

Im on a 24 hour coffee bender right now. Sorry if I don't make sense...

Chiefless · 06-17-2010, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Brooklyn

I'm with you, man. I have a lot of friends that echo your sentiments here. Most of them are big TV watchers and cringe a little bit when I tell them I think LOST is the best TV show of all time.

Of course, I always try to clarify that comment by saying, "well... at least the best show that I've ever seen, and I haven't seen a lot."

My wife and I both have a short list of shows we want to check out ASAP. Of course the one's you listed and Deadwood. Maybe once I've seen those I'll have a different oppinion of LOST.

The Wire was amazing TV. Well worth the time-investment.

Red Brooklyn · 06-17-2010, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Buck

And also Red Brooklyn.

You son of a gun.

This guy right here would get on here right after the episode and point out at least 10 things I missed every time.

Me?!

Aw, shucks, Buck... you're swell.

I've seriously enjoyed your contributions to the discussion. Having a more straight-forward, entertainment view of LOST is not a bad thing at all. In fact, I think it helped keep me grounded.

**Buck** · 06-17-2010, 10:40 AM

Yeah, either way, I know its a great show, otherwise it wouldn't have had over 9 Million viewers for every episode.

**Reaper16** · 06-17-2010, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Brooklyn

Fair enough.

So since you're helping me expand my TV viewing, perhaps you can help expand my literary knowledge as well. Is there a series you have in mind that you (and literary critics) would regard highly and that you think has a more successful structure than LOST? I mean, one that does what you're saying and is self contained and a part of a larger whole?

A series of books that fits that description? I can't think of any that I've read because I tend to stay away from the fantasy genre (or any segment of fiction that tends to, you know, even have a series construction). Nothing wrong with reading for escapism but that isn't me. I play video games for escapism; I read novels to engage in serious ways with the world and with the subject of humanity.

Red Brooklyn · 06-17-2010, 10:41 AM

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The Wire was amazing TV. Well worth the time-investment.

Most of my LOST friends tell me I would love The Wire. Many tell me it's the best show ever on television.

**Buck** · 06-17-2010, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

A series of books that fits that description? I can't think of any that I've read because I tend to stay away from the fantasy genre (or any segment of fiction that tends to, you know, even have a series construction). Nothing wrong with reading for escapism but that isn't me. I play video games for escapism; I read novels to engage in serious ways with the world and with the subject of humanity.

Have you ever read House of Leaves?

**Reaper16** · 06-17-2010, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Buck

Yeah, either way, I know its a great show, otherwise it wouldn't have had over 9 Million viewers for every episode.

Fallacious reasoning. I guess that Desperate Housewives is a way-better show than Lost, then, huh? Oh, man, Transformers 2 was a great movie; look at the box-office returns it made!

Chiefless · 06-17-2010, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Brooklyn

Most of my LOST friends tell me I would love The Wire. Many tell me it's the best show ever on television.

It's the best I've seen. BUT, I could not quite get into the Sopranos (I know, I know) nor have I seen breaking bad.

Red Brooklyn · 06-17-2010, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Buck

Yeah, either way, I know its a great show, otherwise it wouldn't have had over 9 Million viewers for every episode.

Exactly. Good post, sir.

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

A series of books that fits that description? I can't think of any that I've read because I tend to stay away from the fantasy genre (or any segment of fiction that tends to, you know, even have a series construction). Nothing wrong with reading for escapism but that isn't me. I play video games for escapism; I read novels to engage in serious ways with the world and with the subject of humanity.

Where does TV fit in (for you) on this spectrum? More toward escape? Or more toward serious discussion of humanity? I'm sure it depends on the show, but I just mean as a medium, as an art form.

Sub question: What are a couple of your favorite books that engage the world and the subject of humanity?

10-06-2004, 04:29 PM
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06-17-2010, 10:31 AM	#5942
Buck Take a Chill Pill Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Carolina Casino cash: $8249900	I'm not gonna lie. Guys like Reaper and irishjayhawk are definitely smarter than me, and they focus on shit I wouldn't even think about. Sometimes when I read your posts I think you are being uppity or whatever, but you just are in a different frame of mind. I take it as pure entertainment level, as opposed to looking at the bigger meanings of things.
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06-17-2010, 10:36 AM	#5944
Buck Take a Chill Pill Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Carolina Casino cash: $8249900	And also Red Brooklyn. You son of a gun. This guy right here would get on here right after the episode and point out at least 10 things I missed every time.
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06-17-2010, 10:40 AM	#5949
Buck Take a Chill Pill Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Carolina Casino cash: $8249900	Yeah, either way, I know its a great show, otherwise it wouldn't have had over 9 Million viewers for every episode.
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