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that's why i made sure to write "in my book". in my head i can refer to it as a "pastel painting" no problem, or even just a "painting", like other people, but it will never be "painting painting" because it was done in pastels. there's nothing wrong with throwing all mediums together in casual conversation, but museums always make sure to describe them to a T next to their listings. i'm like them in that i'm super particular about making sure of exactly what's what. |
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Technically Paintings are considered oil paint only in fine art.
Watercolor, pastel, chalk, gouache and pencil / pen are drawings.
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Yes, Oil paintings are the ones you simply call "paintings", the rest are "insert medium" paintings. Watercolor paintings, pastel paintings, etc etc So I see where you are going with this... but they are NOT considered sketches/drawings. Well, not automatically some can be drawings or sketches or paintings. Once again... drawing versus painting has little to nothing to do with the medium! I can't stress this enough. |
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if the traditional definition is true, only oil painters are painters, acrylic and watercolor painters are "drawers" - and that's not right. |
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He found this on the internet and thinks that makes it NOT a painting, though I feel it's just a writer trying to explain to the public that it isn't a traditional painting done with brush and oil paint, though it's still technically a pastel painting. The pigments used to make pastels is the same exact pigments used to make oil paint... Munch's "The Scream" achieved another milestone: It now ranks as the most expensive drawing publicly sold. For this version of “The Scream” -- one of four -- is best described as a crayon or pastel drawing, not a painting, on board. The Munch Museum in Oslo owns a pastel as well as a painted version, while the National Gallery of Norway holds the earliest painting, dated 1893. http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...,3775078.story |
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The end of this argument should have been when it was shown that there are 3 or 4 societies that have been around for many years that are dedicated to this medium... and they define it as pastel painting. (unless of course you use pastels to make a drawing... which this is not) yes, it is not an OIL painting... it is still a painting just like a watercolor is. |
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Modern art sucks. That's all I can really contribute to this topic. The Scream is a cool painting or pastel or w/e
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Me: Is it wrong to consider the pastel version of "The Scream" a painting? I know it isn't a traditional painting, made with paint and a brush, but aren't pastels still referred to as paintings? Does a "painting" have to be made strictly with paint? Can't a painting be made with pastel, resins, or pastes? He responded with this: Him: You are correct a “painting” can be created from a number of different materials and does not strictly need to be made from paint- it can also be colored pencils, chaulk pastels, oil pastels, and even collage or any combination of the items. I bet that still won't be good enough though..... |
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According to this definition from Merriam Webster Dictionary Online, a pastel is a drawing, but is a drawing a painting?
Definition of PASTEL 1 : a paste made of powdered pigment ranging from pale to deep colors and used for making crayons; also : a crayon made of such paste 2 a : a drawing in pastel b : the process or art of drawing with pastels 3 : a light literary sketch 4 : any of various pale or light colors See pastel defined for English-language learners » See pastel defined for kids » Examples of PASTEL She has a collection of pastels. She prefers a pastel like light yellow. The room is painted in a pastel shade of blue. Origin of PASTEL French, from Italian pastello, from Late Latin pastellus woad, from diminutive of pasta First Known Use: 1662 |
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lcarus, did you ever get out from under your old man's thumb and your meddling brother at that crappy trophy shop you work at? Your resume looked great and I'm sure your life will improve when you're no longer working alongside your loser family.
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Lol. I am his brother and I am far from a loser. . Too funny that he gets on here and complains about his life. He does need to do something about it
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