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oops... I didn't see that you posted that about guards.
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I think you have to try it, if you are committed to the 3-4....I think that's more likely than expecting him to move to a 3-4 NT. If he put on much weight, I think he'd be trading bulk for speed and might end up less effective as a result.
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Dorsey was supposedly supposed to be a stud 4-3 guy with not any 3-4 exp. or promise....and he underperformed badly, how can we expect anything from him now in the 3-4, i just don't see it
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02-27-2009, 04:21 PM | #51 |
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You don't? That's news to Pioli, who drafted Richard Seymour 6th overall (not quite top-five, but if they had been picking fifth they still would have taken him, without a doubt. Plus, Ty Warren went 13th overall). Seems to me that you don't realize how important DEs are in the 3-4.
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It's been said many times that d-linemen often don't catch fire in their rookie season, so I'm willing to wait on Dorsey to develop. And if he was such a stud at DT, it's hard for me to believe that he wouldn't be at least a serviceable 3-4 DE, and likely a good one.
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My concern about Dorsey was that he was getting buried by guards. Maybe against tackles that would happen less often, particularly as he learns about the league. Also, he seemed to be doing the patented Tim Krumrie hand-fighting a lot while standing around, as opposed to trying to penetrate. The ball would be snapped and then he would stand up and hand-fight, just like he was taught.
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You really shouldn't compare him to Dockett, Dockett may be light but he's super strong.
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We had better try to add both the NT and rushbacker, or else this move to a 3-4 becomes really pointless. If they are really committed to it, I suspect it's a given that we WILL add those pieces--or at least they will try.
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But right now I think Pioli & Haley are far more concerned with implementing the system they want rather than letting their philosophy be dictated by a top 5 pick just last year who they had nothing to do with. Dorsey will just have to be stout at DE and work with the position. There's no other choice. If knowing we're going to a 3-4 and we could do it all over again would we pick somebody different? Yeah probably. But hindsight is 20/20. Shoot if we could play that game we would of either made a move for Ryan or drafted Flacco. |
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Either a short DE(shortest starting 3-4 DE is 6'3", most are 6'5", Dorsey is 6'1")...or he could put on 30 lbs. and try to play NT. I'd think they'll try to see if he can play DE though.
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Wait, as a rookie DT, Dorsey underperformed? Not just underperformed, but underperformed badly?
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I really think that Vrabel is being brought in to be a situational pass rusher. I wouldn't expect that we go to a 3-4 as our base defensive set as it doesn't fit our front 7 personnel very well. I could see using a hybrid or occasional look, but not as our basic defensive set.
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