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Re: SNR & everybody who claims that the non-Geno talent atop this draft is "garbage."
I recently listed several players that I felt are superior to Geno Smith, all things being equal (including positional value):
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At QB, who was a worse prospect than Geno of the above players? 1. Luck 2-tie. RG3/Stafford 3. Ryan 4-tie. Bradford/Sanchez 5. Newton 6. Gabbert 7. Smith 8. Tannehill 9. Locker At OT, who was a worse prospect than Joeckel, Fisher, or Lane Johnson? The way I would have ordered them as prospects: 1. Long 2. Okung 3. Williams 4-tie. Joeckel/Kalil 5. Fisher 6. Jason Smith 7-tie. Andre Smith/Monroe/Lane Johnson 8. Tyron Smith At passrusher, who was a worse prospect than Werner, Moore, or Jordan? 1. Miller 2. Chris Long 3. Aldon Smith 4-tie. Gholston/Werner 5. Moore 6. Harvey 7. Jordan At DT, who was a worse prospect than Richardson or Hankins? (Star is apparently out of commission as a top 10 pick now.) 1. Suh 2. McCoy 3. Dorsey 4. Dareus 5. Raji 6. Richardson 7-tie. Ellis/Hankins 8. Tyson Jackson 9. Alualu Now on to my broader point here: This is how I would rank them as prospects as of now. Of course you could adjust your rankings all over the place. But the myth that Geno Smith is on par with what we've seen in the past while the other three categories are horrendous nightmares compared to your "usual draft," is just that: a myth. |
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02-24-2013, 05:52 PM | #46 |
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Stafford was also a party boy drunk in college and still is. He's also a statue - which is getting him injured at a high rate in the pros. He isn't close to Geno in terms of mechanics and release. He also has bad pocket awareness.
He's got a million dollar arm and a ten cent head. Stafford is Nuke LaLoosh. Geno is a much better prospect at the same stage. |
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I don't get your hate for Geno Direck. None of the guys you've listed have produced the numbers that Geno has over their college careers. And I don't think any of these guys have Geno's ceiling.
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02-24-2013, 08:17 PM | #48 |
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Demontre Moore: 12 bench reps. Seriously?
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02-24-2013, 09:21 PM | #49 |
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Chiefs are gonna look seriously stupid when they turn in the card and it doesn't have Geno's name on it.
Berman and Kiper will say nice things about the team moving together after Jovan Belcher, and how Andy Reid is a great coach. They'll pat us on the head and say "They tried." Then they'll stop giving a **** about the rest of our picks for the entire draft. After recommending we let Albert walk and take Joeckel, Mel Kiper gives us a D- for our draft grade, citing that we're a 2-14 that STILL doesn't have a QB yet |
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02-24-2013, 09:31 PM | #51 | |
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Beyond that, the funniest part to me is that certain people, who seem to be so intent on finding "value" in the draft, go out of their way to devalue players at the quarterback position. You know, the position that is by far the most valuable in today's game. |
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02-24-2013, 09:33 PM | #52 |
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The arguments for Geno all seem to be related to the Chiefs' franchise's past, and not to him.
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02-24-2013, 09:35 PM | #53 |
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Are there any arguments at all in favor of geno that have anything at all to do with KC's history? None that I'm aware of. Everybody that wants him seems to think he's a good QB who will become very good at the next level. |
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02-24-2013, 10:03 PM | #55 |
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At QB, who was a worse prospect than Geno of the above players?
1. Luck 2-tie. RG3/Stafford 3. Smith 4. Ryan 5. Newton 6. tie. Bradford/Sanchez 7. Gabbert 8. Tannehill 9. Locker This is the way I see it and the stats back it up.
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02-24-2013, 10:40 PM | #56 |
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I agree but Geno Smith doesn't have the injury proneness of RGIII & Stafford so I think Geno Smith can have a longer career ahead of those two. I much rather have Geno Smith over RGIII or Stafford now.
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02-24-2013, 10:46 PM | #57 |
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If you think that Sheldon Richardson is a better prospect than Geno Smith, you know very little about the prospects in this year's draft.
I've seen every single snap that Richardson has taken at the D1 level, and I wouldn't draft him in the first. Period. |
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02-24-2013, 10:47 PM | #58 |
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02-24-2013, 11:58 PM | #59 |
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In 10 years, the only players you are going to look at and say "That is THE pick that turned that franchise around" are under the QB column. Maybe it is only a 30% chance, but if it doesn't pan out this time we can try again in 3 years.
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02-25-2013, 12:40 AM | #60 |
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Mother**** YOU, Direcksun.
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