Chiefs Reid should have waited for a DC - Page 4

**The Bad Guy** · 01-17-2013, 08:27 PM

I know Andy wanted to get a staff in place, and I know he did ask for permission to interview Ray Horton, but was rebuffed, but he should have waited a week on the DC.

Horton is going to come available and it's a shame it won't be here.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-17-2013, 10:02 PM

No crying over spilled milk.

Sutton has had experience with Romeo's 3-4 (via Mangini) and Rex's 3-4. He's an experienced NFL defensive coach.

I'm not going to disparage his hiring because Ray Horton may have been available at some point. That's the exact excuse used by 99% of this forum when Clancy ****ing Pendergast was hired in 2009: "Who was Haley going to hire?".

And once again, it appears that a sizable portion of forum members have lady parts.

RustShack · 01-17-2013, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

do you think a team would make a guy stay that wouldn't want to be there after passing him over and starting a new regime?

Yeah....no
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Kinda like how Zorn didn't want to be here this year, but we made him. Yeah, you're reeruned.

**SAUTO** · 01-17-2013, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Kinda like how Zorn didn't want to be here this year, but we made him. Yeah, you're reeruned.

Got a link to that coming from him?

Horton had said he wouldn't be back if they didn't hire him as hc.

**** yourself, little bitch
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Mr_Tomahawk · 01-17-2013, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

No crying over spilled milk.

Sutton has had experience with Romeo's 3-4 (via Mangini) and Rex's 3-4. He's an experienced NFL defensive coach.

I'm not going to disparage his hiring because Ray Horton may have been available at some point. That's the exact excuse used by 99% of this forum when Clancy ****ing Pendergast was hired in 2009: "Who was Haley going to hire?".

And once again, it appears that a sizable portion of forum members have lady parts.

This.

**SAUTO** · 01-17-2013, 10:05 PM

Oh and where did we start a new regime last year?

Dumbass
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Mr_Tomahawk · 01-17-2013, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Ask me if I care what a Cards beat reporter says.

I know what I was told by the same guy who told me the Chiefs were interested in Monte Kiffin 5 days before any other media outlet reported any interest.

Is it gospel? No, but it's been pretty damn accurate lately.

Ha.

That's like bragging about getting first place in the potato sack race on field day...

Tell your source to break something of relevance...

**The Bad Guy** · 01-17-2013, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

Ha.

That's like bragging about getting first place in the potato sack race on field day...

Tell your source to break something of relevance...

Yeah, because the candidates for the DC position isn't relevant info.

chiefzilla1501 · 01-17-2013, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

No spin there idiot.

HORTON WAS NOT GOING TO STAY IF HE DIDN'T GET THE HAD COACH JOB. NEVER. NOT EVER. HE WAS GOING TO LEAVE.

Had nothing to do with Arians, or anyone else that would have gotten the job.
Saying he was forced out by Arians is stupid and dishonest
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Regardless of the Horton decision...
Bowles is 100% Arians' guy and most of his history is in the 2-gap 3-4 we just abandoned. And Arians refuses to hire an offensive coordinator that has any kind of meaningful role in playcalling. It doesn't matter how much say he had over Horton leaving, he sure as hell didn't pick the right guy to replace him. I would call that a completely disastrous DC hire.

Mr_Tomahawk · 01-17-2013, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Yeah, because the candidates for the DC position isn't relevant info.

My source said we had reached out to to Mel Tucker a week prior to it hitting the media...I'm not going to toot my horn about it though...

**SAUTO** · 01-17-2013, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Regardless of the Horton decision...
Bowles is 100% Arians' guy and most of his history is in the 2-gap 3-4 we just abandoned. And Arians refuses to hire an offensive coordinator that has any kind of meaningful role in playcalling. It doesn't matter how much say he had over Horton leaving, he sure as hell didn't pick the right guy to replace him. I would call that a completely disastrous DC hire.

I would agree, and we wouldn't be even talking about it had you not said he was forcing out Horton to bring in one of his idiot buddies.

That was false
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chiefzilla1501 · 01-17-2013, 10:18 PM

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I would agree, and we wouldn't be even talking about it had you not said he was forcing out Horton to bring in one of his idiot buddies.

That was false
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Fair enough. I was probably wrong on that point.

crazycoffey · 01-17-2013, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

If the offense can score more points and sustain drives, it will help the defense out alot.

I felt like there was about 4 or 5 more games would could have won if our offense would have scored another TD or two. Just going from memory.

Or not turn the ball over on a short field

RunKC · 01-17-2013, 10:21 PM

Look at it this way: Ray Horton probably would have been gone in the next year or two. Sutton is an experienced guy who likely won't get a HC gig.
We need consistency and hopefully he brings good results for a long time.

**BossChief** · 01-17-2013, 10:29 PM

Ron Rivera 2014

Titty Meat · 01-17-2013, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Horton likely will be a Brown.

Chud putting together a great staff while many flamed the hiring.

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