Mediocrity stares Broncos right in the eyes - Page 4

**dirk digler** · 01-10-2005, 11:14 AM

I know it is from Kisla but hey it makes for a good read especially the mediocare part.

Indianapolis - So who is Mike Shanahan going to fire this time? The Broncos have not won a playoff game in 2,170 days, and he is running out of fingers to point.

Who is looking for a soft place to fall now, after a 49-24 pounding Sunday by Indianapolis?

Something has got to change for Denver. But what, pray tell, can divert the Broncos off the road to nowhere as the league's poster children for the false hope of parity?

"That's a dumb question," snapped Broncos veteran Rod Smith, 34 years old and no happier with his team than 12 months ago. "What's the difference? What's the difference? What's the difference? I'm asking you. What are the results?"

Something has got to change.

I feel sorry for Ted Sundquist, Denver's general manager. He owns a cool business card, but might have the most thankless job in football.

On a team just good enough to tease Broncomaniacs with championship expectations impossible to fulfill, Sundquist is condemned to have all the responsibility and zero authority.

Chronic mediocrity follows Denver like warm bubble gum on a shoe. But none of the blame ever seems to stick to Shanahan. At least not in the eyes of franchise owner Pat Bowlen.

For those of you keeping score at home, what Shanahan now does best in January is sacrifice scapegoats.

In 1999, cornerback Dale Carter infected the Broncos with the bad attitude Shanahan let in the locker room.

In 2000, all the stench of the season was traced to the door of defensive coordinator Greg Robinson.

In 2001, flighty receiver Eddie Kennison rewarded the faith Shanahan misplaced in him by quitting.

In 2002, quarterback Brian Griese removed the mask, revealing that he was not really Joe Montana, absolutely shocking Shanahan.

In 2003, all playmaker Clinton Portis did was rush for 1,500 yards, but when Shanahan shipped those pink tennis shoes and championship-belt cockiness off to Washington, the chorus of Broncomaniacs shouted amen.

So who takes the hit for another fine mess? Someone has to accept the blame. Trouble is: The Broncos have so few remaining players who really make a difference that blaming a street free agent or a rookie cannot fool all the people in Denver again.

If Shanahan genuinely wants to return to the Super Bowl, he must give complete control of revamping the team to Sundquist. Or fire him as a waste of time and money.

If Bowlen is committed to upholding the public trust that built a new stadium for a Denver civic treasure, the owner should demand Shanahan accept a general manager respected as a co-equal of the coach.

Something has got to change.

"I'm sure they were saying the same thing last year," said Broncos safety John Lynch, signed specifically to end the tired, old story of Denver's playoff regrets.

One of these years, when Colts quarterback Peyton Manning finally strolls into the Pro Football Hall of Fame, Shanahan should hold open the door. If football is a game of inches, then I'm going to need a calculator, a degree from MIT and a six-pack of Red Bull to figure out how Manning passed for 360 yards against Denver. In the first half.

Linebacker Al Wilson deserves a better fate than these redundant humility lessons. Any scribe with a heart under his press credential cheers for guys like Wilson, the rare millionaire as passionate about winning as fans who live and die with the team.

After the blood, sweat and tears of six NFL seasons, Wilson still does not know the joy of postseason victory. Last week, he sat alone in the Broncos' locker room and made a sad confession: "A playoff loss hurts worst of all. Because it's the end. And you know it's the end. As a player, you have no opportunity to redeem yourself. You're going home."

With each successive playoff failure, ever notice how Shanahan looks less like a football mastermind and more like actor Bill Murray?

The Broncos could have saved the airfare to Indy and rented "Groundhog Day." For the umpteenth time.

In the movie, the weatherman portrayed by Murray awoke every morning to the same blasted Sonny and Cher song, until he wanted to crush the clock radio.

Shanahan. We've got him, babe.

TEX · 01-10-2005, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

We aren't talking about the Chiefs, we are talking about the MEDIOCRE Invescos. Try to stay on subject or at least comeup with something besides trying to prove you're not as bad as the Chiefs, because in reality you are. Hell you might be worse.

Stevie,
It's DONKEY 101 and thay all passed the course. When their team is questioned, always - always - always change the subject and answer it with takes about the person's team who is asking the question.

**Rausch** · 01-10-2005, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

LOL...all that money on Bartee, Warfield, Hicks, Fujita, McCleon, Woods, Sims, Morton, Johnson....

Pure comedy steve

The difference is we have very little talent on Defense, and our defense sucks.

You have tons of talent on defense, and your defense sucks.

That's what's funny...

Garcia Bronco · 01-10-2005, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

The difference is we have very little talent on Defense, and our defense sucks.

You have tons of talent on defense, and your defense sucks.

That's what's funny...

Our denfense doesn't suck, but you believe what you want.

Garcia Bronco · 01-10-2005, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

We aren't talking about the Chiefs, we are talking about the MEDIOCRE Invescos. Try to stay on subject or at least comeup with something besides trying to prove you're not as bad as the Chiefs, because in reality you are. Hell you might be worse.

No...I just think it's funny for you to talk that ridiculous bullshit whilst as bad as we may be...yours are worse. LOL

Garcia Bronco · 01-10-2005, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX

Stevie,
It's DONKEY 101 and thay all passed the course. When their team is questioned, always - always - always change the subject and answer it with takes about the person's team who is asking the question.

It's called irony

**Rausch** · 01-10-2005, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Our denfense doesn't suck, but you believe what you want.

Your defense got exposed circa 2003 Chiefs.

Your last 6 games were poop. Oakland's flacid offense hung 25 on you. Then the Chargers hung 20, which is respectable. Then one of the worst offenses in the NFL, the Dolphins, hang 17 before your team puked all over itself and allowed 45 points in Arrowhead.

The only thing keeping you from total implosion was a very good performance against the Tits and beating up on the Colts JV team...

jspchief · 01-10-2005, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Our denfense doesn't suck, but you believe what you want.

Of course it doesn't. A lot of good defenses give up 350 yards passing in the first half.

Garcia Bronco · 01-10-2005, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Your defense got exposed circa 2003 Chiefs.

Your last 6 games were poop. Oakland's flacid offense hung 25 on you. Then the Chargers hung 20, which is respectable. Then one of the worst offenses in the NFL, the Dolphins, hang 17 before your team puked all over itself and allowed 45 points in Arrowhead.

The only thing keeping you from total implosion was a very good performance against the Tits and beating up on the Colts JV team...

The Oakland game was in the snow which favors an offense

Chargers only won by 3

Dolphins beat the Pats the next week I believe and have a pretty good defense...I think if you look at the drives that game or any game...you'll see that turnovers put the defense in bad situations...and many times with short fields the defense held the offense to 3.

And at Arrowhead....1-13...1-13 in december at Arrowhead...you can throw that one out. Correction....now 1-14. But a bad performance....

so your list of 4 games...now shrinks to 1 to support your argument. So my original post to you stands.

The Titans...Volek comes off of two straight weeks of 300 yard plus...might have been 400 and we held him to around 150...and he got pulled.

And I would love for one of you guys to go ask the Colts "JV" team if they let the Broncos win. Ask the Bills about the Steelers "JV" team. A game in the NFL is a game in the NFL...unless it's a strike year.

Garcia Bronco · 01-10-2005, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

Of course it doesn't. A lot of good defenses give up 350 yards passing in the first half.

I would love to see the Chiefs play them in the Dome post season....but you'd have to make the second season to do that. Perhaps you should roll your eyes at that.

TEX · 01-10-2005, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

The Oakland game was in the snow which favors an offense

Chargers only won by 3

Dolphins beat the Pats the next week I believe and have a pretty good defense...I think if you look at the drives that game or any game...you'll see that turnovers put the defense in bad situations...and many times with short fields the defense held the offense to 3.

And at Arrowhead....1-13...1-13 in december at Arrowhead...you can throw that one out. Correction....now 1-14. But a bad performance....

so your list of 4 games...now shrinks to 1 to support your argument. So my original post to you stands.

The Titans...Volek comes off of two straight weeks of 300 yard plus...might have been 400 and we held him to around 150...and he got pulled.

And I would love for one of you guys to go ask the Colts "JV" team if they let the Broncos win. Ask the Bills about the Steelers "JV" team. A game in the NFL is a game in the NFL...unless it's a strike year.

Do you actually believe some of the stuff you write?

**KcMizzou** · 01-10-2005, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

1-13 in december at Arrowhead...you can throw that one out.

Umm.. Why?

Garcia Bronco · 01-10-2005, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX

Do you actually believe some of the stuff you write?

Which part are you refuting?

**Nzoner** · 01-10-2005, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Our denfense doesn't suck, but you believe what you want.

Well they put Reggie Wayne in the record books.

TEX · 01-10-2005, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

I would love to see the Chiefs play them in the Dome post season....but you'd have to make the second season to do that. Perhaps you should roll your eyes at that.

There you go again with your Bronco 101 deflection tactic. This is about the BRONCOS, you know,YOUR team. What would the CHIEFS playing anybody, anywhere have to do with anything when it comes to staying on subject?

Garcia Bronco · 01-10-2005, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou

Umm.. Why?

I said it was a bad performance...read the entire post please. Do not dishonor me.

01-10-2005, 11:14 AM
dirk digler Please squeeze Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Clinton, MO Casino cash: $2754644	Mediocrity stares Broncos right in the eyes I know it is from Kisla but hey it makes for a good read especially the mediocare part. Indianapolis - So who is Mike Shanahan going to fire this time? The Broncos have not won a playoff game in 2,170 days, and he is running out of fingers to point. Who is looking for a soft place to fall now, after a 49-24 pounding Sunday by Indianapolis? Something has got to change for Denver. But what, pray tell, can divert the Broncos off the road to nowhere as the league's poster children for the false hope of parity? "That's a dumb question," snapped Broncos veteran Rod Smith, 34 years old and no happier with his team than 12 months ago. "What's the difference? What's the difference? What's the difference? I'm asking you. What are the results?" Something has got to change. I feel sorry for Ted Sundquist, Denver's general manager. He owns a cool business card, but might have the most thankless job in football. On a team just good enough to tease Broncomaniacs with championship expectations impossible to fulfill, Sundquist is condemned to have all the responsibility and zero authority. Chronic mediocrity follows Denver like warm bubble gum on a shoe. But none of the blame ever seems to stick to Shanahan. At least not in the eyes of franchise owner Pat Bowlen. For those of you keeping score at home, what Shanahan now does best in January is sacrifice scapegoats. In 1999, cornerback Dale Carter infected the Broncos with the bad attitude Shanahan let in the locker room. In 2000, all the stench of the season was traced to the door of defensive coordinator Greg Robinson. In 2001, flighty receiver Eddie Kennison rewarded the faith Shanahan misplaced in him by quitting. In 2002, quarterback Brian Griese removed the mask, revealing that he was not really Joe Montana, absolutely shocking Shanahan. In 2003, all playmaker Clinton Portis did was rush for 1,500 yards, but when Shanahan shipped those pink tennis shoes and championship-belt cockiness off to Washington, the chorus of Broncomaniacs shouted amen. So who takes the hit for another fine mess? Someone has to accept the blame. Trouble is: The Broncos have so few remaining players who really make a difference that blaming a street free agent or a rookie cannot fool all the people in Denver again. If Shanahan genuinely wants to return to the Super Bowl, he must give complete control of revamping the team to Sundquist. Or fire him as a waste of time and money. If Bowlen is committed to upholding the public trust that built a new stadium for a Denver civic treasure, the owner should demand Shanahan accept a general manager respected as a co-equal of the coach. Something has got to change. "I'm sure they were saying the same thing last year," said Broncos safety John Lynch, signed specifically to end the tired, old story of Denver's playoff regrets. One of these years, when Colts quarterback Peyton Manning finally strolls into the Pro Football Hall of Fame, Shanahan should hold open the door. If football is a game of inches, then I'm going to need a calculator, a degree from MIT and a six-pack of Red Bull to figure out how Manning passed for 360 yards against Denver. In the first half. Linebacker Al Wilson deserves a better fate than these redundant humility lessons. Any scribe with a heart under his press credential cheers for guys like Wilson, the rare millionaire as passionate about winning as fans who live and die with the team. After the blood, sweat and tears of six NFL seasons, Wilson still does not know the joy of postseason victory. Last week, he sat alone in the Broncos' locker room and made a sad confession: "A playoff loss hurts worst of all. Because it's the end. And you know it's the end. As a player, you have no opportunity to redeem yourself. You're going home." With each successive playoff failure, ever notice how Shanahan looks less like a football mastermind and more like actor Bill Murray? The Broncos could have saved the airfare to Indy and rented "Groundhog Day." For the umpteenth time. In the movie, the weatherman portrayed by Murray awoke every morning to the same blasted Sonny and Cher song, until he wanted to crush the clock radio. Shanahan. We've got him, babe.
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