well,I did it...projection big screen went out bought a 50 inch plasma

[John_Locke]

suprised the whole family.

our Big Projection screen bit the dust, and I brought the 27 inch to the living room and told the family that they woudl have to be satisfied with this for now becasue there jsut wasn't money in the budget for a new TV.

They handled it like troopers and I went to the tv store and got a 50 inch plasma



betting I don't get "aftershave" for valentines day
Dad got hosed
(from the verizon network commercial)

[ChiefFan31]

Originally Posted by Miles

In general I would tend to agree with you about Sony being overpriced. However, the ES line of A/V components and the XBR line of TVs are typically very solid.

Yep, the XBR's and the Sony ES line of receivers are pretty good. But I wholeheartedly agree about Sony's ego and I don't agree with the way they do things. A lot of their stuff is overpriced junk IMO.

The Sony Trinitron, however, is a rock solid monitor (pre-HD days) I had a 32" vertical flat for years and my folks had the 36" model. Great picture and long lasting.

[ChiefFan31]

Originally Posted by 'Hummus' Jenkins

You take that, and I'll take an Onkyo TX-NR1000 that will whip it's ass 8 out of 7 days a week.

Sony is a lot like Bose...they pay a lot for advertising in said pub's and b/c of that, they get repped beyond the true quality of their product. If their products get bashed, they pull their ad $

Ouch. That is pushing it. All Bose is, is a well marketed piece of shit.

At least Sony does have some good products, unlike Bose.

[Silock]

Originally Posted by Dallas Chief

It isn't correct. Most flat panel formats are able to achieve both 1080i or 1080p resolutions. People say there is a distinct difference visually between the two but I can't tell. For the most part if a the specs say 720p, the set will also be capable of 1080i. Both are coinsidered to be HD.

That's because they are displaying in 1080p in both cases, but the source material may not be 1080p.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by 'Hummus' Jenkins

And it's a hell of a lot cheaper to replace an LCD backlight than it is fixing plasma gas leakage + a backlight.

LCD >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plasma.

I want to know if this is serious. This sounds like fanboy scare tactics to me.

I just about bought a new Samsung 50" plasma over the weekend.

I'm sick and tired of the maintenance on my Toshiba RPT. ISF calibration costs me over $300 each time (all RPT's have to be calibrated once a year, don't know about DLP), the convergence is always slightly off, and the geometry problems are annoying. I want a TV that doesn't always have to be tweaked, ie. non-MECHANICAL.

I need a 50", so right off the bat, LCD's are cost-prohibitive. And I play alot of video games, so response times are an issue for me.

[Skip Towne]

Originally Posted by Dallas Chief

It's a good thing we got out of that business then. Lost money hand over fist, even charging crazy prices for LNB's and whatnot.

I didn't know you were still around. We went over this once before didn't we?

[God of Thunder]

congrats on the purchase!

[crazycoffey]

SOOOOOOO

does this mean you are hosting a SB party????

[Al Bundy]

This is where I had alot of my HD questions answered

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I want to know if this is serious. This sounds like fanboy scare tactics to me.

I just about bought a new Samsung 50" plasma over the weekend.

I'm sick and tired of the maintenance on my Toshiba RPT. ISF calibration costs me over $300 each time (all RPT's have to be calibrated once a year, don't know about DLP), the convergence is always slightly off, and the geometry problems are annoying. I want a TV that doesn't always have to be tweaked, ie. non-MECHANICAL.

I need a 50", so right off the bat, LCD's are cost-prohibitive. And I play alot of video games, so response times are an issue for me.

Response times don't matter with current LCDs, which will give you 8ms...which will be completely imperceptible (your fear of this also reeks of fanboy-dom)

Why would you pay for ISF calibration? Just buy Avia guide to home theater for 30 bucks, look up the service code for the model on the net, and do it it yourself.

If you are going w/ 50" though, I think you would be wise to either go w/ an LCoS TV, wait about 6 months for LCD prices to drop some more, or buy a Samsung DLP and calibrate it correctly.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by 'Hummus' Jenkins

Response times don't matter with current LCDs, which will give you 8ms...which will be completely imperceptible (your fear of this also reeks of fanboy-dom)

Why would you pay for ISF calibration? Just buy Avia guide to home theater for 30 bucks, look up the service code for the model on the net, and do it it yourself.

If you are going w/ 50" though, I think you would be wise to either go w/ an LCoS TV, wait about 6 months for LCD prices to drop some more, or buy a Samsung DLP and calibrate it correctly.

My fear about response times comes from personal experience with LCD monitors and games. It's a legitimate concern from my experience, although I don't have experience with newer LCD screens.

On ISF calibration:

1) I'm very tired of calibrating the set myself. I don't have the time or ambition to deal with it.

2) I have Avia, I use it. It is NOT the same as an ISF calibration, particularly when it comes to anything more than 9-point convergence and geometry adjustments.

What is LCoS? I'll probably wait for LCD if given my druthers...

[Redrum_69]

DLP FTW!!!

[Dallas Chief]

Originally Posted by Skip Towne

I didn't know you were still around. We went over this once before didn't we?

Why yes we have gone over this before. Sometimes there aren't logical answers to why a company chooses a certain path. The only thing I could determine was that it was a cost saving measure. Less material= lower cost, or they got a great deal from a third party. Who knows???

[Dallas Chief]

Originally Posted by Silock

That's because they are displaying in 1080p in both cases, but the source material may not be 1080p.

Let me clarify, I meant both formats- Plasma and LCD are able to achieve both 1080i and 1080p. That being said, not all models are able to achieve 1080p. In my experience, when I look at a 1080p side by side with a 1080i unit, I can't see the difference, even when the 1080p unit was being driven by Blu-ray. There may be a difference but to me it does not equal the additional cost.

[Dallas Chief]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I want to know if this is serious. This sounds like fanboy scare tactics to me.

I just about bought a new Samsung 50" plasma over the weekend.

I'm sick and tired of the maintenance on my Toshiba RPT. ISF calibration costs me over $300 each time (all RPT's have to be calibrated once a year, don't know about DLP), the convergence is always slightly off, and the geometry problems are annoying. I want a TV that doesn't always have to be tweaked, ie. non-MECHANICAL.

I need a 50", so right off the bat, LCD's are cost-prohibitive. And I play alot of video games, so response times are an issue for me.

All fanboy tactics aside, I would scour the warehouse clubs if I were in the market for a new set right now. There is a small price war going on right now in both DLP vs. LCD-PJ/SXRD, and plasma vs. LCD. It will get even better for the consumer in 2007. The product is infinitely better as is the pricing.

[Stewie]

Originally Posted by John_Locke

suprised the whole family.

our Big Projection screen bit the dust, and I brought the 27 inch to the living room and told the family that they woudl have to be satisfied with this for now becasue there jsut wasn't money in the budget for a new TV.

They handled it like troopers and I went to the tv store and got a 50 inch plasma



betting I don't get "aftershave" for valentines day
Dad got hosed
(from the verizon network commercial)

You'll love your plasma. I have a 42" that has an unbelievable picture.

As far as 720p vs. 1080i vs. 1080p - you're paying a premium for a small improvement unless your screen is over 50". I can put my nose on my 720p plasma screen when playing from a high-def source and can't see any flaws.

Oh, and another thing. You should invest in a good surge protector/line conditioner. You can get good ones for around $30.