QBs other than Luck - Page 4

Chiefnj2 · 08:48 AM

In the event the Sea Hawks suckitude exceeds that of the Chiefs:

I'm adding Griffin the hottest QB in the nation right now (9/26/11). The kid has more TD passes than incompletions.

Nick Foles

Matt Barkley

Landry Jones

Ryan Lindley

Brandon Weeden

**Tribal Warfare** · 10-15-2011, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

I'm all for him. If it ain't a QB in round 1, NT, ILB, and OL would be the only real justifiable pickups. I'd still be pissed though. This team needs a QB WAY too much.

Which is why I believe KC will stay with the status quo and develop Stanzi as the starter since Zorn is on the coaching staff. If the Chiefs don't make play on Luck with selling their soul to get him
( a shitload of picks this season and the next after that.)

jd1020 · 10-15-2011, 04:36 PM

Just watched RG3 today, live instead of youtube vs' clips.

Trying to figure out where his "zip on the ball" is. I don't see any more velocity on RG3's passes than the ones Barkley throws and Barkley throws off balance A LOT. I will say that RG3's deep ball is a lot better than Barkley's though. I'd probably draft RG3 before I drafted Barkley. His footwork in the pocket is better, imo, he can extend a play and his deep ball is a lot better. I'm still not really sold on either and Luck/Jones are way better, imo.

aturnis · 10-15-2011, 08:56 PM

JD proved again in this thread the same thing he proves every time he talks about QB's, he doesn't know what he's talking about.

suds79 · 10-15-2011, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Just watched RG3 today, live instead of youtube vs' clips.

Trying to figure out where his "zip on the ball" is. I don't see any more velocity on RG3's passes than the ones Barkley throws and Barkley throws off balance A LOT. I will say that RG3's deep ball is a lot better than Barkley's though. I'd probably draft RG3 before I drafted Barkley. His footwork in the pocket is better, imo, he can extend a play and his deep ball is a lot better. I'm still not really sold on either and Luck/Jones are way better, imo.

Well nobody is disputing that Luck is way better. That's obvious. But Luck isn't an option for us.

As for Jones? By projections, he probably should be better too considering he'll be top 10. It's probably just me but I'm skeptical about mostly every OU QB. They all look great being surrounded by elite talent and they all do nothing in the pros. Maybe Jones will be the first.

Perhaps we have a chance to draft Jones (not sure how I feel about that) and perhaps we don't. But we know will have a shot at Barkley or RG3 if we want. And if it's between those two? I'll take RG3.

jd1020 · 10-16-2011, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

JD proved again in this thread the same thing he proves every time he talks about QB's, he doesn't know what he's talking about.

Why don't you tell me what I missed then, wizard of QB knowledge. Must be easy to look smart without actually saying anything.

**Buehler445** · 10-19-2011, 08:02 PM

Where do you guys see Russell Wilson going? The only game I saw was him absolutely abusing Nebraska.

Does he have the goods?

suds79 · 10-20-2011, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

Where do you guys see Russell Wilson going? The only game I saw was him absolutely abusing Nebraska.

Does he have the goods?

I watched that game. He's a really good college player.

Problem is that he's 5'11. I think a Seneca Wallace is about the best you can hope for.

Right or wrong, he won't ever be considering starting material by NFL standards.

O.city · 10-21-2011, 06:57 PM

This thread can be capped in a few words.

QB's other than Luck? Well in my opinion there are none. When you have a chance to get a once ina lifetime prospect like Luck....go all in. Give whoever whatever to get that pick.

suds79 · 10-21-2011, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

This thread can be capped in a few words.

QB's other than Luck? Well in my opinion there are none. When you have a chance to get a once ina lifetime prospect like Luck....go all in. Give whoever whatever to get that pick.

Not much you can do if that team picking first has it made up in their mind to take Luck & have him QB their team for the next 15 years.

I think it's really as simple as this. Luck is going #1 and that team is not going to trade away his rights.

Might as well let that dream die.

O.city · 10-22-2011, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by suds79

Not much you can do if that team picking first has it made up in their mind to take Luck & have him QB their team for the next 15 years.

I think it's really as simple as this. Luck is going #1 and that team is not going to trade away his rights.

Might as well let that dream die.

I think you are right, however depending on the team it could be different. I'm not sold the Panthers or Rams would for sure draft him. THey would def listen to offers.

Nightfyre · 10-22-2011, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I think you are right, however depending on the team it could be different. I'm not sold the Panthers or Rams would for sure draft him. THey would def listen to offers.

I still think the Colts would have to consider trading it.

Hypothetical:
Draft Order
1 Colts
2 Broncos
3 Chiefs

Chiefs offer #3 and Bowe to swap picks with Colts.

1. Chiefs (thru Colts) Luck
2. Broncos ?????
3. Colts (thru Chiefs) Matt Kalil

Colts wind up with Kalil and Bowe to help manning out, we end up with luck.

jd1020 · 10-22-2011, 08:30 PM

Ya because Bowe would definitely make the difference.

Manning turns every receiver he gets into a pro bowler.

Can we please stop talking about Luck in a thread dedicated to QB's other than Luck. Nevermind the fact that we aren't getting Luck.

aturnis · 10-22-2011, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre

I still think the Colts would have to consider trading it.

Hypothetical:
Draft Order
1 Colts
2 Broncos
3 Chiefs

Chiefs offer #3 and Bowe to swap picks with Colts.

1. Chiefs (thru Colts) Luck
2. Broncos ?????
3. Colts (thru Chiefs) Matt Kalil

Colts wind up with Kalil and Bowe to help manning out, we end up with luck.

Why exactly would the Colts want Bowe? I think they're good on the WR front...

Why wouldn't the Colts want another 15 straight years of winning? Think they'll say, I "Nope, we're good, we had our success. When Peyton retires, we'll just go back to years of mediocrity, it's cool".

aturnis · 10-22-2011, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I think you are right, however depending on the team it could be different. I'm not sold the Panthers or Rams would for sure draft him. THey would def listen to offers.

The only team who would consider trading the pick is the Rams. The Panthers WILL NOT get that pick.

Nightfyre · 10-23-2011, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

Why exactly would the Colts want Bowe? I think they're good on the WR front...

Why wouldn't the Colts want another 15 straight years of winning? Think they'll say, I "Nope, we're good, we had our success. When Peyton retires, we'll just go back to years of mediocrity, it's cool".

Imagine what Manning could do with a receiver who could actually run after the catch rather than fall down. Yea, Pierre Garcon is good. But Reggie Wayne is old and Austin Collie is nothing without Manning. Bowe would be a monster in Indy.

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