Chiefs Petro a& Lenny "Don't blame the offense" - Page 4

**petegz28** · 12-22-2008, 12:38 PM

On the way to the airport I was listening to Soren and Lenny. While Lenny was a bit more critical of Thigy, both said this game was not the fault of the offense. 500 yard and 31 points should never net you a loss.

Lenny reminded us what some here tried to say yesterday, "offense is fun to watch but defense wins games".

Miami had the ball for 12 minutes in the 4th quarter. That says it right there. That is the game. This offense battled back from poor special teams play and defensive play (opening play), to hand the defense yet another lead.

Both said Thigy's performance is expected for a 1st year QB. Did he make dumb throws? Yes. Should he have had more INT's? Yes. But as Soren pointed out, Pennignton also got away with 2 or 3 balls that were tipped and close to being picked off.

Bottom line is the offense has been moving the ball and scoring and the defense has yet to hold a lead. Again as Lenny said, you can't keep trying to outscore your opponents ala DV. Defense has to show up and play.

Hootie · 12-22-2008, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

He's not nearly as immobile as Bledsoe was....

And by the way if you haven't noticed, Tony Romo is sucking ass this year.

8-3 in games when he's healthy? That's sucking ass?

26 TD's and 13 INT's with a 95 QB rating...

8-3

are you reeruned?

**Bowser** · 12-22-2008, 01:10 PM

Palmer is Trent Green. If he has an above average line and skill players, he will dominate. I don't see Carson as that guy that can lift the talent of the players around him, though.

Mecca · 12-22-2008, 01:10 PM

Hootie, you amuse me.

Mecca · 12-22-2008, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Palmer is Trent Green. If he has an above average line and skill players, he will dominate. I don't see Carson as that guy that can lift the talent of the players around him, though.

Classic Chiefs planet line "No QB is good without a line"

**HemiEd** · 12-22-2008, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I'll trade basically the entire Chiefs roster for Carson Palmer.

Your dumbest post ever.

Hootie · 12-22-2008, 01:11 PM

Tony Romo, undrafted, has accomplished far more to date, and is a far better QB than former #1 pick Carson Palmer...hands down.

and Carson Palmer is done in the NFL...two more years of mediocrity equals new team, equals backup job, equals just another #1 QB bust.

Mecca · 12-22-2008, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Your dumbest post ever.

It's a tongue in cheek post but Carson Palmer is worth more than basically every player on the Chiefs roster.

Hootie · 12-22-2008, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Hootie, you amuse me.

why? Because you just said a QB who is 8-3 as a starter this year with 26 TD's and 13 INT's with a QB rating higher than that of the 8-8 2006 Carson Palmer is 'sucking balls' this year?

**Bowser** · 12-22-2008, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Classic Chiefs planet line "No QB is good without a line"

My point was Carson is good, maybe borderline great, but he isn't elite.

Hootie · 12-22-2008, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

It's a tongue in cheek post but Carson Palmer is worth more than basically every player on the Chiefs roster.

so you'd trade our #3 pick for Carson Palmer?

Mecca · 12-22-2008, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

Tony Romo, undrafted, has accomplished far more to date, and is a far better QB than former #1 pick Carson Palmer...hands down.

and Carson Palmer is done in the NFL...two more years of mediocrity equals new team, equals backup job, equals just another #1 QB bust.

Tony Romo is only on the most talented team in the league, man I'm impressed...

And according to you he hasn't because Palmer and Romo have done the same thing they've both made the playoffs and lost. Palmer got injured in his game, Romo just ****ed up.

Mecca · 12-22-2008, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

My point was Carson is good, maybe borderline great, but he isn't elite.

That's fine if you think there's like 1 or 2 elite QB's.

Hootie · 12-22-2008, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

My point was Carson is good, maybe borderline great, but he isn't elite.

if he was borderline great he'd have more than one playoff appearance under his belt with players like Chad Johnson, TJ Houshmandzadeh and Chris Henry on his team...

He was average when healthy, and now he can't stay on the field...he's on name alone now.

People were taking him in the 2nd round of fantasy this year and I was cracking up...the dude will never be relevant again...I can't wait until the 5-11 2009 Bengals conclude their season with Palmer on IR so I can laugh in douche bag's face.

**DeezNutz** · 12-22-2008, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

so you'd trade our #3 pick for Carson Palmer?

Would you trade LJ for Palmer?

Mecca · 12-22-2008, 01:15 PM

It's Carson Palmers fault the Bengals are reeruns, he is obviously the QB, GM and head coach.

12-22-2008, 12:38 PM
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $2214127	Petro a& Lenny "Don't blame the offense" On the way to the airport I was listening to Soren and Lenny. While Lenny was a bit more critical of Thigy, both said this game was not the fault of the offense. 500 yard and 31 points should never net you a loss. Lenny reminded us what some here tried to say yesterday, "offense is fun to watch but defense wins games". Miami had the ball for 12 minutes in the 4th quarter. That says it right there. That is the game. This offense battled back from poor special teams play and defensive play (opening play), to hand the defense yet another lead. Both said Thigy's performance is expected for a 1st year QB. Did he make dumb throws? Yes. Should he have had more INT's? Yes. But as Soren pointed out, Pennignton also got away with 2 or 3 balls that were tipped and close to being picked off. Bottom line is the offense has been moving the ball and scoring and the defense has yet to hold a lead. Again as Lenny said, you can't keep trying to outscore your opponents ala DV. Defense has to show up and play.
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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Tony Romo, undrafted, has accomplished far more to date, and is a far better QB than former #1 pick Carson Palmer...hands down. and Carson Palmer is done in the NFL...two more years of mediocrity equals new team, equals backup job, equals just another #1 QB bust.
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2067050	It's Carson Palmers fault the Bengals are reeruns, he is obviously the QB, GM and head coach.
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