Other Games The Official Chess Thread (ICC / USCF) - Page 4

**Ming the Merciless** · 05-04-2010, 02:56 PM

It was a very tough puzzle! In some cases it is not possible to win with a rook versus a bishop and pawn...but yes basically you make mate threats and threats to the bishop until you either mate the king or win the bishop.

Bishop+Knight is very difficult, and I must confess that I probably could not do it under tournament conditions either...(within 50 moves, if no pawns move)...It is very very easy to make one slip and have it go over the 50 move limit.

The thing is it will be extremely rare for a bishop+knight (with no extra pawns) game to come up in a real game. I have never had it come up, although I have a friend who has had it come up one time, and got a draw instead of a win...so it does come up...

Much better for us mortals to work on rook endgames (like rook +1-2 pawns versus lone rook) or king+pawn endgames!

Mate with the two bishops is much easier, but does require a little finesse...Here is a link to a site where you can practice the 2-bishops versus a lone king:

http://www.chess-poster.com/chess_pr...wo_bishops.htm

**Ming the Merciless** · 05-09-2010, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

Click on red box here for background info on the world Championship of chess.

Ok, the score is TIED 5.5 - 5.5 !!!!

With ONE MORE game to go!!!!

If it is a draw, there will be a series of BLITZ tie breakers!!!! Holy shit it will be fun to listen and watch....If you are at ALL a chess fan keep posted and I will post the result and links to where you can watch!

The last game will be tuesday morning at 8:00 AM eastern!

The tie breaks will be wednesday at 8 AM if needed....Tune in here on Tuesday!!

**Ming the Merciless** · 05-11-2010, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

Ok, the score is TIED 5.5 - 5.5 !!!!

With ONE MORE game to go!!!!

If it is a draw, there will be a series of BLITZ tie breakers!!!! Holy shit it will be fun to listen and watch....If you are at ALL a chess fan keep posted and I will post the result and links to where you can watch!

The last game will be tuesday morning at 8:00 AM eastern!

The tie breaks will be wednesday at 8 AM if needed....Tune in here on Tuesday!!

It is the last game, CRITICAL position....

Anand is to move and has a game winning move (according to the commentators) if he finds it......

http://www.chessclub.com/radio to listen\\or try

http://pointers.audiovideoweb.com/as...inlive6754.asx

http://www.anand-topalov.com/en/live.html to watch

or chess.com to watch (maybe)

post in this thread if you have problems

**cdcox** · 05-09-2010, 08:02 PM

Hey, Pawnmower! I've been waiting for you to show up here.

Have you used the Chess Tactics Server? http://chess.emrald.net/index.php

I can score in the 1250 to 1270 range on that server as a guest (playing around 100 or so problems to get a legitimate score). I always thought I was an upper 1400 to lower 1500 type player.

Do you have any estimate of how the ratings on that server correspond to a real over the board rating?

Just curious.

**Ming the Merciless** · 12-31-2010, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox

Do you have any estimate of how the ratings on that server correspond to a real over the board rating?

Just an Update, richard from www.chesstempo.com is continuing his analysis of the relation between tactics ratings and 'over the board' ratings....

There are some threads discussing it on the forums and a built-in feature that if you solve enough puzzles gives an estimated FIDE rating:

http://chesstempo.com/chess-forum/pr...e-t2076.0.html

http://chesstempo.com/chess-forum/ch...g-t1427.0.html

**Ming the Merciless** · 05-10-2010, 10:43 AM

Hey CD!!

I used to used chess.emrald.net but I am now HOOKED on it's competitor ( www.chesstempo.com).

For one thing, you can play standard (non blitz) and take your time on each problem. Another thing is that Richard (the guy who built the site) has come up with an algorithm that does a pretty good job of guessign your OTB rating based on your blitz/standard performance. Another thing is that chesstempo has endgame problems!!!

To better answer your question though, I havent used emrald in a while but it seems reasonable that if you are around 1300 'blitz' that you could be 1400+ in over the board play....The thing is that is only one factor and there are other factors (standard tactics with more time, endgame performance, opening knowledge, psychological factors etc).

On Richard's site, he asks for your USCF ID# and or FIDE ID# and has statistical data (which he gets using everyone's ID#'s)...and he has done correlations of peoples chesstempto ratings versus their actual ratings etc..., so after you do a certain number of problems, it guesses your OTB rating...It is pretty cool. Check it out!!!

Edit: I just read you have to be at least a silver (paid) member to get a over-the-board estimate....check that site out though, maybe youll like it enough to become silver, I did.

I would recommend doing standard (non blitz problems)!

TTYL!

**DaKCMan AP** · 05-10-2010, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

www.chessclub.com <-- best place I know of for chess, not free but CHEAP. They have a free week trial. If you join this site, I can look at your games and help you get better. Videos, masters playing 24/7 you can watch, lectures, simuls....so many things...

My cousin runs that site.

**Ming the Merciless** · 05-10-2010, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

My cousin runs that site.

Wow!!! Thats sweet!! Tell him too hook me up with a free membership hahahahahaha...

Just kidding, I am a proud paid member, and enjoy supporting good chess sites...

+rep for the name drop though

**Ming the Merciless** · 05-11-2010, 05:22 PM

Anand is the World Champion still (he retains his title).

6.5-5.5

He won the last and decisive game with the black pieces. The game had a lot of fireworks....To play over the game, click here:

http://www.chess.com/news/vishy-anan...rld-title-6866

scroll down to the player and you can go through the game move by move.

**Ming the Merciless** · 12-31-2010, 03:37 PM

Ok Here is a very typical puzzle:

http://chesstempo.com/chess-problems/64

For beginners:

Spoiler!

Extra hint if you need it:

Spoiler!

Good luck!

JD10367 · 12-31-2010, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

Ok Here is a very typical puzzle:

http://chesstempo.com/chess-problems/64

I haven't played chess in years, but I couldn't even figure out how to use that webpage, LOL, so I must be really stupid. It said "black to play" up top so I took the white rook with my black rook and let the white bishop take my rook, then I took (I think) a white knight with my black bishop.

**Ming the Merciless** · 12-31-2010, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD10367

I haven't played chess in years, but I couldn't even figure out how to use that webpage, LOL, so I must be really stupid. It said "black to play" up top so I took the white rook with my black rook and let the white bishop take my rook, then I took (I think) a white knight with my black bishop.

Thats my fault...I cant figure out how to make the links work for guests! (yet!)

BUT... You absolutely got the problem correct....Nice! It should say 'correct' but for some reason the link I used isn't working...(I am attempting to figure out why...)

If you had a free account, you would receive points towards your tactics rating and as you move higher in points, it serves you harder and harder problems...(you only get the points on problems randomly served in rated mode tho)

Nice job brospeh!

edit: so yah, you figured out the POINT of the problem....and that is if you take the knight 1st, he can simply take back with the rook and you have gained jack and shit. BUT if you trade off the rooks 1st, the knight is left without a defender. /highfive

JohnnyV13 · 12-31-2010, 06:53 PM

Pawnmower, i'm not ranked, but i play a lot of strong uscf players in 10 minute games around tucson. I have beaten one master rank and a number of expert ranks in these casual games. Many players in this group generally estimate me as a 1700 to 1800 player. I once had a 2000+ rating on msn, but don't know how that would compare to a uscf rating, since its hard to play anything more than a 10minute game on such sites.

**Ming the Merciless** · 12-31-2010, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyV13

Pawnmower, i'm not ranked, but i play a lot of strong uscf players in 10 minute games around tucson. I have beaten one master rank and a number of expert ranks in these casual games. Many players in this group generally estimate me as a 1700 to 1800 player. I once had a 2000+ rating on msn, but don't know how that would compare to a uscf rating, since its hard to play anything more than a 10minute game on such sites.

Hey bud!

Niiice! Tuscon sounds like a pretty cool scene...Around here (SF) they always wanna play 5 minute.....I hate 5 minute so much....10 minute is way better....I have never beaten a master, or an expert in a tournament game. I have beaten and drawn A players...and I once drew an expert in an actual tournament game. If you are 2000+ in MSN, I would wager that puts you at the A or B class. Pretty strong....You must have some natural talent or maybe you played as a kid? I dodnt start till I was 30ish so I have really had to work at it......But it is fun. You should register! You could play in some tournaments and win some decent money if you havent gotten rated yet. Theres pretty good prize money at tourneys sometimes....and if you are just starting out your rating will be lower than your actual strength for a while, so youll be able to enter D class and C class tourneys and PWN them! Dooooooo itttt!

Edit:

Im not sure about MSN but www.chesscube.com is a pretty good site too for playing others.....

ALso www.chesstempo.com -- once your 'blitz' rating gets to the point where tour RD (rating deviation) is lower that about 100 , I think it equates pretty well to a USCF rating....it is free try it...I think you need to do about 100 problems maybe on blitz mode before it gets accurate.

JD10367 · 12-31-2010, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

BUT... You absolutely got the problem correct....Nice! . . . edit: so yah, you figured out the POINT of the problem....and that is if you take the knight 1st, he can simply take back with the rook and you have gained jack and shit. BUT if you trade off the rooks 1st, the knight is left without a defender. /highfive

Really? That was it? Jeez. I rarely played chess, and I don't consider myself any good at it, but I saw that move immediately and didn't think it was anything hard.

Maybe I'm smarter than I think, LOL.

05-04-2010, 02:56 PM	#1
Ming the Merciless Emporer of Mongo Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Milky Way Casino cash: $2437556	It was a very tough puzzle! In some cases it is not possible to win with a rook versus a bishop and pawn...but yes basically you make mate threats and threats to the bishop until you either mate the king or win the bishop. Bishop+Knight is very difficult, and I must confess that I probably could not do it under tournament conditions either...(within 50 moves, if no pawns move)...It is very very easy to make one slip and have it go over the 50 move limit. The thing is it will be extremely rare for a bishop+knight (with no extra pawns) game to come up in a real game. I have never had it come up, although I have a friend who has had it come up one time, and got a draw instead of a win...so it does come up... Much better for us mortals to work on rook endgames (like rook +1-2 pawns versus lone rook) or king+pawn endgames! Mate with the two bishops is much easier, but does require a little finesse...Here is a link to a site where you can practice the 2-bishops versus a lone king: http://www.chess-poster.com/chess_pr...wo_bishops.htm
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05-09-2010, 08:02 PM	#4
cdcox www.nfl-forecast.com Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $2021769	Hey, Pawnmower! I've been waiting for you to show up here. Have you used the Chess Tactics Server? http://chess.emrald.net/index.php I can score in the 1250 to 1270 range on that server as a guest (playing around 100 or so problems to get a legitimate score). I always thought I was an upper 1400 to lower 1500 type player. Do you have any estimate of how the ratings on that server correspond to a real over the board rating? Just curious.
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05-10-2010, 10:43 AM	#6
Ming the Merciless Emporer of Mongo Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Milky Way Casino cash: $2437556	Hey CD!! I used to used chess.emrald.net but I am now HOOKED on it's competitor ( www.chesstempo.com). For one thing, you can play standard (non blitz) and take your time on each problem. Another thing is that Richard (the guy who built the site) has come up with an algorithm that does a pretty good job of guessign your OTB rating based on your blitz/standard performance. Another thing is that chesstempo has endgame problems!!! To better answer your question though, I havent used emrald in a while but it seems reasonable that if you are around 1300 'blitz' that you could be 1400+ in over the board play....The thing is that is only one factor and there are other factors (standard tactics with more time, endgame performance, opening knowledge, psychological factors etc). On Richard's site, he asks for your USCF ID# and or FIDE ID# and has statistical data (which he gets using everyone's ID#'s)...and he has done correlations of peoples chesstempto ratings versus their actual ratings etc..., so after you do a certain number of problems, it guesses your OTB rating...It is pretty cool. Check it out!!! Edit: I just read you have to be at least a silver (paid) member to get a over-the-board estimate....check that site out though, maybe youll like it enough to become silver, I did. I would recommend doing standard (non blitz problems)! TTYL! Last edited by Ming the Merciless; 05-10-2010 at 03:15 PM..
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05-11-2010, 05:22 PM	#9
Ming the Merciless Emporer of Mongo Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Milky Way Casino cash: $2437556	Anand is the World Champion still (he retains his title). 6.5-5.5 He won the last and decisive game with the black pieces. The game had a lot of fireworks....To play over the game, click here: http://www.chess.com/news/vishy-anan...rld-title-6866 scroll down to the player and you can go through the game move by move.
Posts: 44,496

12-31-2010, 03:37 PM	#10
Ming the Merciless Emporer of Mongo Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Milky Way Casino cash: $2437556	Ok Here is a very typical puzzle: http://chesstempo.com/chess-problems/64 For beginners: Spoiler! Try to find a move that leaves you with extra material...in other words...You need to win a piece....at the end of the problem your opponent will have one less piece than you. Extra hint if you need it: Spoiler! Always look for a piece and attack the defender of the piece...."If you want the treasure, attack and kill the guard" Good luck! __________________ ---- 2018 Adopt-A-Chief : Chris Conley 2017 Adopt-A-Chief : FRANK ZOMBO Click here-->*The Holy Chiefsplanet Lexicon **
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12-31-2010, 06:53 PM	#13
JohnnyV13 Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tucson AZ Casino cash: $6065200	Pawnmower, i'm not ranked, but i play a lot of strong uscf players in 10 minute games around tucson. I have beaten one master rank and a number of expert ranks in these casual games. Many players in this group generally estimate me as a 1700 to 1800 player. I once had a 2000+ rating on msn, but don't know how that would compare to a uscf rating, since its hard to play anything more than a 10minute game on such sites.
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