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Old 11-18-2018, 12:21 PM  
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Kelce career trajectory vs. Gonzalez

Monday Night will be Travis Kelce’s 75th career regular season game. Here’s how his numbers compare to Tony Gonzalez’s first 75 games;

Tony G: 319 rec, 3,745 yards, 27 TDs.

Travis Kelce: 364 rec, 4,687 yards, 28 TDs.

Does Kelce stand a chance of continuing that pace?
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Old 12-02-2018, 06:43 PM   #46
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Old 12-02-2018, 07:45 PM   #47
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I think Kelce might be playing in some kind of pain since mid-season or so. He doesn't have the same bounce after big plays.

If so the way he's gritting through it and still being a huge weapon gives me a massive amount of respect.

Either way he's been huge this year and still been good in his down games.
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Old 12-02-2018, 07:55 PM   #48
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I think Kelce might be playing in some kind of pain since mid-season or so. He doesn't have the same bounce after big plays.

If so the way he's gritting through it and still being a huge weapon gives me a massive amount of respect.

Either way he's been huge this year and still been good in his down games.

I think he is maturing and trying to get the refs to give him a break
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Old 12-02-2018, 08:09 PM   #49
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Kelce is not the same caliber of player. Gonzalez redefined the position and played in an era where you could actually play defense. He's also not been nearly as healthy as Gonzalez.
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Old 12-02-2018, 09:04 PM   #50
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I think Kelce is just as much of an offensive weapon than Gonzalez. The question is can he have the longevity?
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Old 12-02-2018, 09:06 PM   #51
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Tony played at a high level for about a million years. Not many are going to do that, regardless of the pace.
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Old 12-02-2018, 09:07 PM   #52
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Kelce is not the same caliber of player. Gonzalez redefined the position and played in an era where you could actually play defense. He's also not been nearly as healthy as Gonzalez.
How, exactly, did he redefine the position?
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Another more intriguing question: Will Kelce be a HOFer?
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Old 12-02-2018, 09:11 PM   #54
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How, exactly, did he redefine the position?
He ushered in the era of the power forward tight end, paving the way for guys like Jimmy Graham, Antonio Gates, etc.

After Tony Gonzalez, people starting looking for completely different skillsets in tight ends. Before Gonzalez, people wanted Mark Bavaro. After Tony Gonzalez, they wanted Tony Gonzalez.

He's one of the most revolutionary players in football history.
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He ushered in the era of the power forward tight end, paving the way for guys like Jimmy Graham, Antonio Gates, etc.

After Tony Gonzalez, people starting looking for completely different skillsets in tight ends. Before Gonzalez, people wanted Mark Bavaro. After Tony Gonzalez, they wanted Tony Gonzalez.

He's one of the most revolutionary players in football history.
Mark Bavaro?

Sandbagging a little there aren't you?
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Yeah this is an interesting debate.

Why didn't people covet Kellen Winslow types?
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Mark Bavaro?

Sandbagging a little there aren't you?
Not really. That's why guys like Kyle Brady and David LaFleur were 1st round tight ends. Teams prized blocking TEs, and used high draft picks on them. Gonzalez changed that. Forever.
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Kelce is not the same caliber of player. Gonzalez redefined the position and played in an era where you could actually play defense. He's also not been nearly as healthy as Gonzalez.
You are correct Gonzalez was revolutionary. You're wrong thinking Kelce isn't the same caliber player.
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I have to agree with jenkins. The guy brought back idea of the offensive te, but then took it to another level. Then played at a high level like rice forever to cement hof stature. You now see clones of him everywhere. Only difference is the insane gloves they have now.
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You are correct Gonzalez was revolutionary. You're wrong thinking Kelce isn't the same caliber player.
Kelce would have to continue for another 10plus. That is the point he was making. Or go on a 110 catch 1600 15 td tear for five or six years.
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