Chiefs Defense narrative is wrong on this game - Page 4

jerryaldini · 10-06-2019, 11:30 PM

Chiefs lost because on 10 offensive possessions they scored 13 points. They had plenty of possessions. When you can't convert 1st downs your TOP suffers. It's simply wrong that Indys rush game was why they won. Chiefs gave up 4 ypc, league average, and only 330 total.

Lots of running requires long drives with many opportunities to be stopped, which the chiefs did every drive except the first. Unless you convert those to TDs you aren't scoring enough to win in the modern NFL without a great defense. 19 points won't get it done.

Even in the AFCCG the chiefs only yielded 3.7 ypc. But they couldn't stop the short pass game and gave up 7 TDs. This year's team is getting stops at key times the last two weeks. This week they eliminated big plays except the PI.

The defense has not been good. But it's been good enough to be 5-0, and is getting better. Online is trash, and is not helped by Andy never running the ball or enough screens/draws to keep the opposing D line honest. We get Mo next week and hopefully a trade or two to add a DB and possibly front 7 piece. Chiefs are gonna getcha, yarhoooo.

Imon Yourside · 10-07-2019, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Iconic

Our run D is a joke but so is our offense, which is supposed to be the strength. Even when we had the ball we looked like complete shit and that's a legitimate concern going forward.

Injuries or no injuries, good teams win these games just look at the Pats and the laundry list of injuries they have.

Well fold up the tents and quit the season then?

Only158 · 10-07-2019, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Imon Yourside

Well fold up the tents and quit the season then?

Not sure anyone is calling for that. But lets put away the rainbow and unicorn preparation for a parade in February. This team could get pushed around by a few of the lingerie league teams. THAT is where the frustration lies. Consistently getting " out toughed" is getting old.

TEX · 10-07-2019, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jerryaldini

Nope, Indy scored only 6 points in the half with its run every down strategy. I'll take the chiefs every game to score more than 6 on 4 possessions. D held up its end. .

"D held up its end"

WTF???
Just wow. This could very well be the dumbest post in the history of CP.

smithandrew051 · 10-07-2019, 05:11 AM

Both sucked, but the offense was worse when you consider their potential.

The injuries excuse is bullshit when you take into account the injuries that the Colts had on defense as well.

Mahomes and Reid need to get this figured out and quick. Next week is a playoff game as far as I’m concerned. You can’t lose AFC games at home.

I get that some people are saying that this year is all about the postseason. That’s true, but we can’t go into the postseason as the 3 or 4 seed. That would mean having to play 3 games, 2 of which would be on the road, to get to the Super Bowl. We need to be the 1 or 2 seed to have a chance.

Abba-Dabba · 10-07-2019, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX

"D held up its end"

WTF???
Just wow. This could very well be the dumbest post in the history of CP.

Now now. That is a little harsh. Maybe he is just blind and not dumb.

stevieray · 10-07-2019, 05:18 AM

The offense does not get a pass in this game.

They played their part in this loss.

BWillie · 10-07-2019, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX

"D held up its end"

WTF???
Just wow. This could very well be the dumbest post in the history of CP.

How didn't they? The offense gave up a fumble too and the defense held it to a FG. The defense wasnt amazing but it was a hell of alot better than our offense.

The defense forced an int and on 9 possessions the D only let up one TD

We just were without our wr1 and wr2. Its gonna happen

Redbled · 10-07-2019, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051

Both sucked, but the offense was worse when you consider their potential.

The injuries excuse is bullshit when you take into account the injuries that the Colts had on defense as well.

Mahomes and Reid need to get this figured out and quick. Next week is a playoff game as far as I’m concerned. You can’t lose AFC games at home.

I get that some people are saying that this year is all about the postseason. That’s true, but we can’t go into the postseason as the 3 or 4 seed. That would mean having to play 3 games, 2 of which would be on the road, to get to the Super Bowl. We need to be the 1 or 2 seed to have a chance.

Both teams full strength we win. We have scored loads of points this year on better defenses than the Colts have.

DRM08 · 10-07-2019, 06:14 AM

Only gave up 330 yards because they had a 50+ yard penalty on a scoring drive for the Colts. Hidden yards.

rabblerouser · 10-07-2019, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

How didn't they? The offense gave up a fumble too and the defense held it to a FG. The defense wasnt amazing but it was a hell of alot better than our offense.

The defense forced an int and on 9 possessions the D only let up one TD

We just were without our wr1 and wr2. Its gonna happen

Well, maybe BWillie is blind AND dumb...

Mr. Plow · 10-07-2019, 06:41 AM

Horrible game by both sides of the ball, but not being able to get any stops and letting them run at will was a huge problem.

Why Not? · 10-07-2019, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

Carlos Hyde gets his revenge next week.

Not to mention what Deandre Hopkins and Will Fuller will do to that secondary.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-07-2019, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

How didn't they? The offense gave up a fumble too and the defense held it to a FG. The defense wasnt amazing but it was a hell of alot better than our offense.

The defense forced an int and on 9 possessions the D only let up one TD

We just were without our wr1 and wr2. Its gonna happen

The defense was hot garbage. We said all year long we do not want to lose TOP. We were told with guys like okafor and ogbah, these guys suck at rushing the passer but they can stop the run. Id rather give up quick points than take our offense totally out of rhythm. It's also a recipe for disaster late games because we're asking a tired defense to make late stops. Our defense isn't managing games for Alex Smith anymore.

TEX · 10-07-2019, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

Well, maybe BWillie is blind AND dumb...

Something along those lines. Ridiculous that anyone can be as wrong about something as he is here. "Hot Take" stupidity at its best.

**morphius** · 10-07-2019, 06:54 AM

Congrats to the Defense for holding them to field goals, but can you really give them credit for anything more than that? (That is rhetorical, as the answer is no)

Offense, line hasn't blocked well lately at all, last week 3 man pressure was getting to us, this week gave up at least 3 sacks. Receivers were dropping passes, and turning the ball over. And penalties everywhere.

10-06-2019, 11:30 PM
jerryaldini MVP Join Date: Dec 2018 Casino cash: $4260400	Defense narrative is wrong on this game Chiefs lost because on 10 offensive possessions they scored 13 points. They had plenty of possessions. When you can't convert 1st downs your TOP suffers. It's simply wrong that Indys rush game was why they won. Chiefs gave up 4 ypc, league average, and only 330 total. Lots of running requires long drives with many opportunities to be stopped, which the chiefs did every drive except the first. Unless you convert those to TDs you aren't scoring enough to win in the modern NFL without a great defense. 19 points won't get it done. Even in the AFCCG the chiefs only yielded 3.7 ypc. But they couldn't stop the short pass game and gave up 7 TDs. This year's team is getting stops at key times the last two weeks. This week they eliminated big plays except the PI. The defense has not been good. But it's been good enough to be 5-0, and is getting better. Online is trash, and is not helped by Andy never running the ball or enough screens/draws to keep the opposing D line honest. We get Mo next week and hopefully a trade or two to add a DB and possibly front 7 piece. Chiefs are gonna getcha, yarhoooo.
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smithandrew051 I Like The Kansas City Chiefs Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Shawnee, KS Casino cash: $2794400	Both sucked, but the offense was worse when you consider their potential. The injuries excuse is bullshit when you take into account the injuries that the Colts had on defense as well. Mahomes and Reid need to get this figured out and quick. Next week is a playoff game as far as I’m concerned. You can’t lose AFC games at home. I get that some people are saying that this year is all about the postseason. That’s true, but we can’t go into the postseason as the 3 or 4 seed. That would mean having to play 3 games, 2 of which would be on the road, to get to the Super Bowl. We need to be the 1 or 2 seed to have a chance. __________________ My 2023 Adopt a Chief: Keondre Coburn Holy Hat!
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10-07-2019, 05:18 AM	#51
stevieray best in the biz Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Under Pressure Casino cash: $2145273	The offense does not get a pass in this game. They played their part in this loss.
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DRM08 MVP Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Texas Casino cash: $2190400	Only gave up 330 yards because they had a 50+ yard penalty on a scoring drive for the Colts. Hidden yards.
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Mr. Plow In Search of a Life Join Date: Dec 2005 Casino cash: $1607391	Horrible game by both sides of the ball, but not being able to get any stops and letting them run at will was a huge problem.
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10-07-2019, 06:54 AM	#60
morphius World's finest morphius Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $6785027	Congrats to the Defense for holding them to field goals, but can you really give them credit for anything more than that? (That is rhetorical, as the answer is no) Offense, line hasn't blocked well lately at all, last week 3 man pressure was getting to us, this week gave up at least 3 sacks. Receivers were dropping passes, and turning the ball over. And penalties everywhere.
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