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Old 07-13-2013, 09:16 AM  
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Who's your guy in the 4th quarter when losing to an above .500 team: Alex or Aa
I pulled this link off of Reddit thinking this would be a great source of friendly banter and enlightened discussion. Who's more clutch in a comeback against winning teams? You want Captain Checkdown II- Electric Boogaloo or you want the Discount Double Check guy?



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Old 07-13-2013, 11:59 AM   #46
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Why did their defense take a huge step back with Tattoo Boy behind center? That is a legit question. They weren't the same team at all when they changed QB's.
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Old 07-13-2013, 12:07 PM   #47
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My point is, and it pains me to say it, that Herm isn't necessarily wrong in that you can score "too fast" in a game. Plays run is a better indicator of success, but you still need to be able control the clock in situations.
I agree with you in the example of the four minute drill, but only there.
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Old 07-13-2013, 12:12 PM   #48
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... It's all about whatever stats you need to cherry pick....

Hopefully we won't need to chuck the ball either. I'm sure Andy Reid's offense will focus on running....
No. It's not about cherry-picking stats at all. My point is... regardless of STATS.. the thing that matters most is efficient play that leads to winning. It's this candy-ass football fantasy BS that has thoroughly poisoned some minds. Throw for 500 yards? Throw for 200 yards. Whatever... just play efficiently and win!
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Old 07-13-2013, 12:13 PM   #49
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#1 quarterback on 1st down. Oh, but let's overlook that and focus on the particular numbers that strengthen your agenda.
You don't really need to look at particular numbers. How about yards and touchdowns? The two most important ones? Alex Smith...severely ****ing lacking.

This isn't rocket science. Alex Smith is limited, and we're going to be disappointed when we face a team that can put up more than 24 points.
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You don't really need to look at particular numbers. How about yards and touchdowns? The two most important ones? Alex Smith...severely ****ing lacking.

This isn't rocket science. Alex Smith is limited, and we're going to be disappointed when we face a team that can put up more than 24 points.
This limited quarterback led his team to a special teams fumble away from the SB... on a team in their first season of new coaching... during a lockout offseason... while being a top 10 QB in efficiency.

Yards and TDs are the important numbers? Yeah... no... I'll go with WINS. I think that wins are what it's all about. Like Justin Smith says... "Stats are for losers."

( they are fun and we all like to manipulate them to fit an agenda... but when you scrape away all the BS... wins are all that matters )
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Old 07-13-2013, 12:19 PM   #51
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No. It's not about cherry-picking stats at all. My point is... regardless of STATS.. the thing that matters most is efficient play that leads to winning. It's this candy-ass football fantasy BS that has thoroughly poisoned some minds. Throw for 500 yards? Throw for 200 yards. Whatever... just play efficiently and win!
Yeah.. My mind is poisoned for wanting a QB who can average >200yds passing in a game. All the time you hear Patriots fans and Packer fans and Saints fans complaining about all those passing yards, and yearning for a quaint little 200yd passing day and a 12-7 win. Candy ass passing stats are overrated...
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Yeah.. My mind is poisoned for wanting a QB who can average >200yds passing in a game. All the time you hear Patriots fans and Packer fans and Saints fans complaining about all those passing yards, and yearning for a quaint little 200yd passing day and a 12-7 win. Candy ass passing stats are overrated...
Yeah, ideally, great if the QB dazzles us with a aerial show. But really, would you rather a 500 yard passing game accompanied by a roller-coaster loss? or a 200 yard passing game accompanied by a methodical win?
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The fantasy football mindset ruins every damn discussion about the game. Finishing in the top of the league in turnover differential is still the greatest factor in winning games. Hell they go to a SuperBowl without 2 fluke fumbled punt returns.

How is playing loose and winning 28-24 better than playing clean and winning 17-13?
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Yeah, ideally, great if the QB dazzles us with a aerial show. But really, would you rather a 500 yard passing game accompanied by a roller-coaster loss? or a 200 yard passing game accompanied by a methodical win?
A win is certainly a win. But that does not mean we should be striving for winning in a less than ideal fashion. A 500 yard passing game gives infinitely higher chance of victory. The 49ers canned Smith because Kaep gives them a better chance at higher passing stats. It's as simple as that...
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Smith before Rogers? You guys are hilarious!

I would take Aaron Rogers one thousand times out of one thousand in any situation and I wouldn't even need one second to make the decision.
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Smith before Rogers? You guys are hilarious!

I would take Aaron Rogers one thousand times out of one thousand in any situation and I wouldn't even need one second to make the decision.
Nobody is saying anything like that. It does appear that he is better when the game is on the line though than people will ever give him credit for...
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Nobody is saying anything like that. It does appear that he is better when the game is on the line though than people will ever give him credit for...
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This limited quarterback led his team to a special teams fumble away from the SB... on a team in their first season of new coaching... during a lockout offseason... while being a top 10 QB in efficiency.

Yards and TDs are the important numbers? Yeah... no... I'll go with WINS. I think that wins are what it's all about. Like Justin Smith says... "Stats are for losers."

( they are fun and we all like to manipulate them to fit an agenda... but when you scrape away all the BS... wins are all that matters )
Stats are not for losers. An extreme example, two QB's, one for his career has 0 touchdowns, and 100 interceptions, and another has 100 td's and 0 int's. In your logic these stats do not matter whatsoever to speculate on future performance and you would be fine with either QB. Go **** yourself.
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A win is certainly a win. But that does not mean we should be striving for winning in a less than ideal fashion. A 500 yard passing game gives infinitely higher chance of victory. The 49ers canned Smith because Kaep gives them a better chance at higher passing stats. It's as simple as that...
As it turned out, Kaep was always going to be "the guy." Sure, we drafted him in rd 2, but Harbaugh scammed Alex really well with his BS. Kaepernick is clearly a more.. explosive weapon at QB.. I get that. That's not so much a knock on Alex as it is a compliment to Kaep.

I just find the razzle dazzle fans annoying. They don't study the game. They just get their rocks off on the big plays.. like stupid little kids with blank looks on their faces.. and well, that's okay... annoying but okay. There is no enforceable blueprint for fans.

I prefer the cerebral QBs that methodically drive the field. The chuck and duck backyard ballers make me feel like I'm watching the AFL.
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