Chiefs Cutler to Redskins in three-way deal? Cassel to Denver? - Page 4

ziggysocki · 03-19-2009, 07:41 AM

Cutler to Redskins in three-way deal? Cassel to Denver?

Per yahoo sports:

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Cutler to Redskins in three-way deal? Cassel to Denver?

The Philadelphia Inquirer reported the Washington Redskins are trying to land unhappy quarterback Jay Cutler from the Denver Broncos. According to the report, the rumored deal would also include the Kansas City Chiefs.

According to the report, Cutler would end up in Washington, Matt Cassel in Denver and Jason Campbell in Kansas City.

According to The Inquirer, the 'Skins are denying they have any intention of dumping Campbell, which shows they were paying attention when the Broncos got themselves into this mess to begin with. New coach Josh McDaniels, formerly QB coach and offensive coordinator for the Patriots, actively tried to trade Cutler for Cassel last month, didn't succeed, then lied about it.

Source: Philly.com

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/p...urn=nfl,149110

rad · 03-19-2009, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Uh, Cutler had more yards, more TDs, a similar completion % despite 100 more attempts and MUCH less sacks. Oh yeah, he was in the Pro Bowl too.

But Cassel is an upgrade.

Wasn't disagreeing. Just randomly ****ing with you.

Who in their right mind would think Cassel is an upgrade over Cutler? As far as physical tools go, it's a no-brainer, but I question Cutler's mental stability and commitment.

RINGLEADER · 03-19-2009, 08:56 AM

This does rank quite high on the stupid meter.

But I love the idea of trading the #3 for all of the Redskins picks so that they can ship it to Denver for Cutler.

That would be great.

**Scorp** · 03-19-2009, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by bigdreams1

If Pioli could take our 2nd rounder and turn it into #12 & #13 picks + Campbell he would be a genious. Campbell in my opinion is not that bad of a QB. He's still young and has had Santana to throw to and thats about it. I'd draft Sanchez with #3 and let him develop for a year. Than I'd grab Maulauga with 12 and Oher with 13. I would hope this is the case. I think if you plug Campbell into the Patriots system last year he would have performed just as well as Cassell. I'm all for this pipe dream!!

We don't have a 2nd round pick anymore, we traded it to New England for Cassel and Vrabel.

RedThat · 03-19-2009, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Uh, Cutler had more yards, more TDs, a similar completion % despite 100 more attempts and MUCH less sacks. Oh yeah, he was in the Pro Bowl too.

But Cassel is an upgrade.

Cutler is more talented then Cassel, but I bet Cassel has a better attitude.

Codered · 03-19-2009, 08:58 AM

I'm a bit confused with some of these posts ... So Denver is going to trade their first rounder and Cutler to get Cassel now? O.o

KChiefs1 · 03-19-2009, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ziggysocki

Cutler to Redskins in three-way deal? Cassel to Denver?

Per yahoo sports:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/p...urn=nfl,149110

The Chiefs end up with Campbell?????

Pioli better make sure we get both Denver & Washington's first round picks then....

Coogs · 03-19-2009, 08:58 AM

I'll play along, as this sort of thing kind of intregues me. If I were the Chiefs in this scenario, I would leave Campbell out of the equation. Let Denver and Washington create whatever scenario they want for Cutler. Then if the Broncos want Cassel, then picks #12 and #48 would have to come into play at the very least. (#12 and #13 both seem a little out of the question to me)

#3, #12, and #48 in the first two rounds wouldn't be bad at all IMO. And basically in the same spot we were a month ago in regards to QB, but better draft picks and Vrabel.

**DaKCMan AP** · 03-19-2009, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by rad

Wasn't disagreeing. Just randomly ****ing with you.

Who in their right mind would think Cassel is an upgrade over Cutler? As far as physical tools go, it's a no-brainer, but I question Cutler's mental stability and commitment.

Ok. I was worried you were going full reerun.

**DaKCMan AP** · 03-19-2009, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by RedBull

Cutler is more talented then Cassel, but I bet Cassel has a better attitude.

So what you're saying is Cassel is the guy you want to lead a song of kumbaya?

RedThat · 03-19-2009, 09:03 AM

This has to be pure speculation.

Why would we trade a quarterback we just acquired?

A guy whom Pioli has praised many times. And the funny part of this is, they have Cassel rumoured to go to Denver? Is this realistically possible to even think that we the Chiefs are gonna trade our quarterback we've acquired to our divisional rival? Oh yeah and Im sure Pioli is gonna want Jason Campbell as a result of all this...Just dumb.

Tipford · 03-19-2009, 09:05 AM

Instead of helping the

, I say help ourselves to another first rounder. I still like the idea of trying to trade Ken Dorsey to a team like Tennessee, straight across for their 1st rounder. This scenario makes alot more sense than this convoluted rumor I'm reading. If we are truly making the transition to the 3-4 defence, Dorsey in my opinion, becomes a player without a position. He is too light to play nose tackle, and the idea of making him a defensive end, well throw that idea out the window. He is a defensive tackle, ideal for the 4-3 defence, plain and simple. I say trade him to Tennessee for their 1st rounder to replace Haynesworth. Then turn that pick into Raji, the big defensive tackle from Boston College, if he's still on the boards. This makes a whole lot more sense to me.

RedThat · 03-19-2009, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

So what you're saying is Cassel is the guy you want to lead a song of kumbaya?

What Im saying is, I'll take a player with a good attitude and good work ethic over a guy who is talented with a not so good attitude.

BigCatDaddy · 03-19-2009, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by RedBull

Cutler is more talented then Cassel, but I bet Cassel has a better attitude.

I don't know. If you are limiting "talent" to the ability to throw the ball 100MPH then sure Cutler has more talent. Ir you are including ability to read a defense, ability to throw with accuracy, ability to avoid a rush, and ability to manage a game as "talent" then this could be debatable.

**Scorp** · 03-19-2009, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Tipford

Instead of helping the

, I say help ourselves to another first rounder. I still like the idea of trying to trade Ken Dorsey to a team like Tennessee, straight across for their 1st rounder. .

Who the fuck is Ken Dorsey?

CaliforniaChief · 03-19-2009, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by RedBull

This has to be pure speculation.

Why would we trade a quarterback we just acquired?

A guy whom Pioli has praised many times. And the funny part of this is, they have Cassel rumoured to go to Denver? Is this realistically possible to even think that we the Chiefs are gonna trade our quarterback we've acquired to our divisional rival? Oh yeah and Im sure Pioli is gonna want Jason Campbell as a result of all this...Just dumb.

I'm sure it is speculation but there are a few things that add credence to it. First, why would Pioli heap praise on a guy he was about to launch into a long-term contract discussion with? I would think going into negotiations you would want to downplay his abilities.

If we were able to land a load of draft picks to pick up a future QB and bring in Campbell for one year to bridge the gap/compete with Thigpen, I'm all for it. Someone else said it...it looks like pure rumor. BUT, there's no long-term contract, no jersey number, and a need to acquire more talent. A LOT of talent.

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Coogs In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Northern Kansas Casino cash: $1024349	I'll play along, as this sort of thing kind of intregues me. If I were the Chiefs in this scenario, I would leave Campbell out of the equation. Let Denver and Washington create whatever scenario they want for Cutler. Then if the Broncos want Cassel, then picks #12 and #48 would have to come into play at the very least. (#12 and #13 both seem a little out of the question to me) #3, #12, and #48 in the first two rounds wouldn't be bad at all IMO. And basically in the same spot we were a month ago in regards to QB, but better draft picks and Vrabel.
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RedThat Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	This has to be pure speculation. Why would we trade a quarterback we just acquired? A guy whom Pioli has praised many times. And the funny part of this is, they have Cassel rumoured to go to Denver? Is this realistically possible to even think that we the Chiefs are gonna trade our quarterback we've acquired to our divisional rival? Oh yeah and Im sure Pioli is gonna want Jason Campbell as a result of all this...Just dumb.
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03-19-2009, 09:05 AM	#56
Tipford Rookie Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $10004900	1st round draft picks Instead of helping the , I say help ourselves to another first rounder. I still like the idea of trying to trade Ken Dorsey to a team like Tennessee, straight across for their 1st rounder. This scenario makes alot more sense than this convoluted rumor I'm reading. If we are truly making the transition to the 3-4 defence, Dorsey in my opinion, becomes a player without a position. He is too light to play nose tackle, and the idea of making him a defensive end, well throw that idea out the window. He is a defensive tackle, ideal for the 4-3 defence, plain and simple. I say trade him to Tennessee for their 1st rounder to replace Haynesworth. Then turn that pick into Raji, the big defensive tackle from Boston College, if he's still on the boards. This makes a whole lot more sense to me.
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