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DJ's left nut · 01-13-2013, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

The franchise tag for an OT is going to be over $10 million......just an FYI.

True, but to get that number down you'll have to sign him long-term and give him a hell of a signing bonus. If his back has gone south, we'll take a much bigger hit than the $10 mil in a couple of years when we have to eat the bonus when we cut him.

And we have a nice roll-over this season without a really premier FA crop - so why not eat up some of that cap space by protecting ourselves with the Franchise tag instead of giving the big signing bonus and potentially really hurting ourself if he can't come back from the back problem.

Finally - the tag figure for WRs is almost exactly the same (and may go up even more with the CJ and Fitz extensions coming on their big mony years). If you're going to use the tag at all, it really should be on Albert.

**Rausch** · 01-13-2013, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

The franchise tag for an OT is going to be over $10 million......just an FYI.

If paid and no deal is negotiated...

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 01-13-2013, 01:19 PM

I would get Bowe signed and franchise Albert. Pay the money for a year and see if he's good to go. That would be my play.

**Rausch** · 01-13-2013, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

I would get Bowe signed and franchise Albert. Pay the money for a year and see if he's good to go. That would be my play.

This.

Then lay pick 1 out there like some college tiddys at a frat party...

DJ's left nut · 01-13-2013, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

I would get Bowe signed and franchise Albert. Pay the money for a year and see if he's good to go. That would be my play.

The only downside to it is that you now anchor Albert at 'franchise' money if you want to sign him long-term in 2014.

The high-risk method would be to try to sign him long-term right now at an 'injury' discount and before a decent coaching staff comes in here and makes him look better.

If he's healthy, you'll look like a genius. If he's not...well it's not going to get you fired but it's not going to do you any favors.

I just don't think the Chiefs can afford to take the chance with a back issue on an O-lineman. I'd tag and follow.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 01-13-2013, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

The only downside to it is that you now anchor Albert at 'franchise' money if you want to sign him long-term in 2014.

The high-risk method would be to try to sign him long-term right now at an 'injury' discount and before a decent coaching staff comes in here and makes him look better.

If he's healthy, you'll look like a genius. If he's not...well it's not going to get you fired but it's not going to do you any favors.

I just don't think the Chiefs can afford to take the chance with a back issue on an O-lineman. I'd tag and follow.

If you can get it, then I agree. But it needs to be a good discount, because that back is a serious risk.

CaliforniaChief · 01-13-2013, 01:32 PM

To say that you don't need a good O-line is simply untrue. However, you can use picks in rounds 3-5 to acquire depth and size on the line. I would use a first round pick if I had NOBODY or if my LT was retiring or 35 years old.

Albert's just fine. Tag him/sign him and he does great at LT.

Rounds 1-2 are for playmakers, IMO. QB, pass rushers, CB, WR.

Coogs · 01-13-2013, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

To say that you don't need a good O-line is simply untrue. However, you can use picks in rounds 3-5 to acquire depth and size on the line.

Which we have just done. Allen, Stephenson, Asamoah, and Hudson. All have experience. Now coach them up and let them all settle into a coheisive unit with Albert and Winston.

Hell, even as good as the 69ers line is right now, they were not flawless when their 1st rounders were rookies.

mcaj22 · 01-13-2013, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

Which we have just done. Allen, Stephenson, Asamoah, and Hudson. All have experience. Now coach them up and let them all settle into a coheisive unit with Albert and Winston.

Hell, even as good as the 69ers line is right now, they were not flawless when their 1st rounders were rookies.

yes they were

O.city · 01-13-2013, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

yes they were

Flawless? Nah.

Coogs · 01-13-2013, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

yes they were

I watched a 69ers game once when Iupati was a rookie. He wasn't flawless that game.

EDIT: It may have been this game I am thinking about...

http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=300926012

And the 69ers final record that season was 6-10.

scho63 · 01-13-2013, 01:33 PM

I would work on signing both Albert and Bowe. If you get one done quickly, you can always use the franchise tag on the other as a last resort.

I would expect it to be easier to sign players based on what Clark just did to bring us a winner.

**007** · 01-13-2013, 01:36 PM

Get Albert signed. **** this franchise tag talk for him. If we have to tag someone, I would rather it be Bowe again.

O.city · 01-13-2013, 01:40 PM

Albert has back injury concerns, it makes to much sense to just tag him and see how that goes.

Sign Bowe, tag Albert, lets do this shit.

Saccopoo · 01-13-2013, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Albert has back injury concerns, it makes to much sense to just tag him and see how that goes.

Sign Bowe, tag Albert, lets do this shit.

Not a bad idea, and you might look and see if Barrett Jones is sitting there at the top of the second at that point, though I can't see passing on either Rhodes or Amerson if they are there.

The Chiefs really need a big, good press coverage cornerback more than a OT, especially since drafting both Allen and Stephenson in the 2nd and 3rd rounds last draft.

I mean, why the **** would someone want to draft an OT first, especially one that wasn't even the best OT on his team (which Matthews was), when we just picked one up in the second and third round in the last draft?

Do you ****ing idiots and draft "experts" like Kiper and the rest even pay attention to shit past the first round?

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