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Old 12-13-2017, 09:34 AM  
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Old 12-13-2017, 11:05 AM   #46
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Old 12-13-2017, 11:07 AM   #47
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The core is there, they need to add some better complimentary pieces to it.

I haven’t looked around at anyone though
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Old 12-13-2017, 11:08 AM   #48
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Allen Baily is worth his 4M cap savings if cut. I would keep him.

This team hasnt been able to put together a solid DLine in decades, and Baily is needed to keep it respectable at this point.

Top teir D linemen dont just fall out of the sky.
$6 million in savings, not 4.

The best case scenario with Bailey is a re-structure that gives him another year and turns his $8 million due in '18 to about $10 million due in '18 and '19. change that contract to a 2 year deal with base salaries at $1 and $3 million with a $6 million signing bonus. That gives you a cap hit of $6 million this year (as his pro-rated bonus will still hit this year's cap) and actually gives him a little MORE cash in hand for 2018. The Chiefs then have him at a $6 million cap hit for '19 as well.

It creates some flexibility in both seasons and I'm not wholly convinced he'd beat that in the market. Maybe he'll call our bluff and take his chances. But he's so one-dimensional that I don't think teams will be beating his door down.
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Old 12-13-2017, 11:08 AM   #49
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How 'bout big Shel; is Richardson worth taking a gamble on? Alex Okafor's achilles rupture is disappointing - he looked like a great fit as a young FA.

I don't see a good way to get Demarcus Lawrence; he'll almost certainly get tagged. DaQuan Jones might be a nice fit.

There will be some guys.
I do see one guy I'd throw some cash at.

Eric Berry, Ron Parker and...Kenny Vaccaro. That would be pretty damn formidable.

Might take a shot at Daniel McClullers as a potential NT. That sumbitch is 6'7", 350 lbs with 36 inch arms.
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Old 12-13-2017, 11:09 AM   #50
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Allen Baily is worth his 4M cap savings if cut. I would keep him.

This team hasnt been able to put together a solid DLine in decades, and Baily is needed to keep it respectable at this point.

Top teir D linemen dont just fall out of the sky.
NO, they don't, but that aint Bailey.
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I’m as big of a Richardson fan as anyone but 2 things come to mind....

I can’t see the Seahawks letting him go after giving up what they did for him

And with what you describe as an iffy locker room, is he a guy you wanna drop in there?
Stale and iffy aren't exactly the same thing.

Perhaps the leadership void created by excising Hali and DJ isn't a great environment to put Richardson in, I'll grant you. But Berry and Houston are still the heart and soul of that group and I think they can manage it.

It's a risk though, to be sure.
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Old 12-13-2017, 11:19 AM   #53
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I think I'd pass on Vaccaro. He's got a name that'll command a decent contract yet he's been a bit of a disappointment.

It's possible that new coaching and a change of scenery could work for him but I wouldn't bank on it.
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Old 12-13-2017, 11:22 AM   #54
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Bailey looked better against Oakland but so did the whole front 7.

Also Houston looked like the old Houston so that’s nice
We've actually hit the interesting part of Houstons contract where we are a year or 2 away from a healthy restructure. Assuming you want to keep him in his 30s. If we are ever in a pinch we could always convert some of his base salary into signing bonus. This would actually be a nice option to consider maybe not this off-season, but the next one. Houston will be motivated to do it and maybe take a paycut if it means putting better guarantees on his contract.
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With Berry back there, is go young unknown at safety. Or fh ap. They’ve done it previously and it’s worked out fine.

Star lotul.....whatever from the panthers is a free agent. He’d be a decent buy low option.
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Old 12-13-2017, 11:23 AM   #56
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Anything that resembled a top 15 or better offense and we had a legit shot.

Championship defense and Alex led offense =s 15/16.

Our window has slammed shut, it rebuild again time for our next 5 year plan.
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I wouldn't get rid of many more guys than the obvious Smith/Hali/DJ, personally.

Those releases alone signal the turning of a new leaf. Those are three of the current leaders on the Chiefs, and two guys who are going in the ring at Arrowhead. Add on top the fact that Mahomes starts next year and it is a clear start from scratch IMO.

I don't think the 2018 Chiefs are dead in the water just because Mahomes will be in his first year though. If they don't completely purge the roster, there's still going to be A LOT of talent on the team. It's not like DJ and Hali are still incremental pieces of success, so losing them is more of a leadership void than anything.

I would keep guys like Bailey and Parker, those middle of the roster role players. Just use some of the newfound cap space to plug some holes and nail 2 or 3 draft picks, and I believe the Chiefs can go to the playoffs in Mahomes' first year as a starter.
I agree with this

Parker is fine when Berry will be back, Bailey again is fine you are not going to get much better for that kind of money.

Logan is a mystery same question who are you going to get. Logan was good early on then started showing up on injury reports with Knee issue I wonder if he is healthy and just toughing it out knowing he is on open market either way.

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What are you going to do for Mahomes? WR or compotent #2TE or both?

Defense are you going 4-3 or 3-4 Base? Things are set up for a transition but who knows. If you dont have that dominant Nose I dont like the 3-4 and worse when Houston is dropping into coverage so much.
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There really isn’t shit available at OLB this offseason. They may have to hold on to Ford and just play out the string there.
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$6 million in savings, not 4.

The best case scenario with Bailey is a re-structure that gives him another year and turns his $8 million due in '18 to about $10 million due in '18 and '19. change that contract to a 2 year deal with base salaries at $1 and $3 million with a $6 million signing bonus. That gives you a cap hit of $6 million this year (as his pro-rated bonus will still hit this year's cap) and actually gives him a little MORE cash in hand for 2018. The Chiefs then have him at a $6 million cap hit for '19 as well.

It creates some flexibility in both seasons and I'm not wholly convinced he'd beat that in the market. Maybe he'll call our bluff and take his chances. But he's so one-dimensional that I don't think teams will be beating his door down.
you are right. I misread OTC and thought the 2M dead money was subtracted fromt that for some reason.

Either way I think we need him to stick around next year. I semi agree that a restructure would be nice, but why would he? Weak free agency class for defensive tackles and ends. His agent would probably tell him to just let us cut him and make more in FA.
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*ahem* Bailey and Ron Parker, for sure.



Unless you're looking to switch to a 4-3 I'm not sure he'd be a scheme fit. You'd also be looking at paying $40m per year in just two pass rushers.



I am so, SO down.
Naw, I think a pass rusher can rush the passer in any scheme
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