A Question for all that want DE with 1st pick

[Saulbadguy]

Why should we draft another pass rusher? We already have one, IMO. I don't want a rookie on one end, and a 2nd year veteran on the other.

[Cannibal]

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Why should we draft another pass rusher? We already have one, IMO. I don't want a rookie on one end, and a 2nd year veteran on the other.

Because it is one of the positions in which a rookie (if he is talented) can step right in and contribute immediately, which is what we need. Plus, if you can generate a very good pass rush from both end positions, it allows you blitz less often which allows you to cover the field better, which makes you a better D.

[Saulbadguy]

Originally Posted by Cannibal

Because it the one of the positions in which a rookie (if he is talented) can step right in and contribute immediately, which is what we need. Plus, if you can genate a very good pass rush from both end positions, it allows you blitz less often which allows you to cover the field better, which makes you a better D.

True, but so can a LB or CB. We have a "pass rushing DE" in Jared Allen. I believe having him will open up more opportunties for our DT's and the other DE to get more pressure on the QB. Hell, its already happening. The last few games i've been watching, our D-Line is performing fairly well, and they are getting pressure.

Our LB's however..when they are sent on a blitz, they don't do shit. They get caught up behind our D-line, or just get blocked out. Our LB's totally suck.

[Cannibal]

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

True, but so can a LB or CB. We have a "pass rushing DE" in Jared Allen. I believe having him will open up more opportunties for our DT's and the other DE to get more pressure on the QB. Hell, its already happening. The last few games i've been watching, our D-Line is performing fairly well, and they are getting pressure.

Our LB's however..when they are sent on a blitz, they don't do shit. They get caught up behind our D-line, or just get blocked out. Our LB's totally suck.

I agree. But as I said in my previous post, DE is one the few positions in which a rookie can contribute right away. I do not recommend drafting a rookie corner and starting him in a year that is supposed to be SB or bust.

If you want to draft a MLB, I'd be fine with that, but we had better also sign a pass rusher. Hicks' lack of production has killed this D the last couple of years.

We need a new start at DE, MLB and CB. If Carl can come up with legit play makers at each of those positions (tall order) then we at least have a fighting chance.

[Cannibal]

Great D ALWAYS starts with the a good/great pass rush from both end positions. It makes a CB's life MUCH easier, they won't have to cover for so long.

See DT/Neil Smith.

[Saulbadguy]

Originally Posted by Cannibal

I agree. But as I said in my previous post, DE is one the few positions in which a rookie can contribute right away. I do not recommend drafting a rookie corner and starting him in a year that is supposed to be SB or bust.

If you want to draft a MLB, I'd be fine with that, but we had better also sign a pass rusher. Hicks' lack of production has killed this D the last couple of years.

We need a new start at DE, MLB and CB. If Carl can come up with legit play makers at each of those positions (tall order) then we at least have a fighting chance.

I agree with that sentiment, that DE is one of the few positions that will contribute. However, so is a LB, and a WR. I wouldn't be upset with a CB either, but with the "new" rules and all, we might be better off signing a veteran CB.

Draft a MLB? Hell no. There are none worth taking in the 1st round. We'd just be drafting another 2nd round MLB. Lets see if Maslowski can come back, and see how Kawika Mitchell and Monty Beisel progress. I wouldn't object to signing a MLB either.

[royr17]

The dude will be gone by the time we pick

[Cannibal]

Originally Posted by royr17

The dude will be gone by the time we pick

Maybe we can trade up as we did for Tony G.

I know it's rare, but Carl has actually traded up in the past.

[royr17]

Oh and by the way the new mock draft on NFL Countdown has us taking a Safety from Oklahoma in the 2nd round named Brodney Pool, the dude is tall, he is 6'4" and weight 228 lbs.

[royr17]

Wouldnt this lineup look awesome on defense :

LDE Mathias Kiwanuka
LDT Ryan Sims
RDT Junior Siavii
RDE Jared Allen
LLB Scott Fujita
MLB Edgerton Hartwell
RLB Keyaron Fox
LCB Charles Woodson
RCB Eric Warfield
FS Brodney Pool
SS Greg Wesley

[royr17]

All though we could find someone better to start in place of Barber instead of Fox, but I think I would love to see Fox starting next year even though i havent seen anything of him.