Pete Pricksco's top 10 QB. Trent Green #8 ... WTF??? - Page 4

Kerberos · 06-15-2005, 07:16 PM

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/positi...ankings/OFF/QB

Green at #8 ????? Thats Bullshit ... I would put him before Brett Farve and Steve McNair. Farve is close to being done and McNair is a walking injury report for the last couple of years .... '

I don't get this at all .... Pricksco is a dick ... pun intended!

1. Peyton Manning, Colts How much more can he do from a statistical standpoint? Now it's time to win the ring.
2. Tom Brady, Patriots He doesn't put up big numbers, but he gets it done when it counts. The guy is a legitimate star.
3. Daunte Culpepper, Vikings If not for Manning's amazing season, we'd all be talking about what Culpepper did. Now comes the hard part: Doing it without Randy Moss.
4. Donovan McNabb, Eagles When he finally got a legitimate weapon in Terrell Owens we saw how good McNabb can be. He elevated his game last season.
5. Michael Vick, Falcons He's a magical player at times, but he has to improve his passing. When that happens, look out.
6. Brett Favre, Packers He can still make some amazing plays with his arm, but he's not the same player he was a few years back. But we're glad he's back for another season.
7. Steve McNair, Titans Injuries crippled him last season, but he decided to keep playing instead of retiring. He's lost some weight and he's healthy again. But his team is crumbling around him.
8. Trent Green, Chiefs He had another huge year in 2004 from a numbers standpoint. He knows how to move the chains.
9. Matt Hasselbeck, Seahawks He started slow in 2004, but he came on in the end. With a new, fat contract, he's the man in Seattle. With no more worries, he should play more relaxed.
10. Chad Pennington, Jets The one concern with Pennington is his rotator cuff injury. Will he get his velocity back? If not, the Jets are in trouble.

WTF?????

Pricksco =

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**Rausch** · 06-16-2005, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

I cant figure out how the quarterback of the highest scoring offense in the league for the past three years isnt any higher than 10 on this list.

Without Trent Green, this offense is in BIG trouble. If Johnnie Morton had not bitched up at the end of the year for the final 3 games, he very well could have reached the 1,000 yard mark receiving. That would have made THREE 1,000 yard receivers for the Chiefs offense. That to me is the mark of a GREAT quarterback, not having to simply rely on one bigtime playmaker to complete the passes.

Yeah, we have Priest and L.J., but without Trent Green this offense would not be close to producing the results that they have.

Had KC had a defense these past three seasons and not cost the Chiefs so many games, Im pretty sure Green would be ranked a lot higher on that list.

Vick is nothing. The falcons play in a weak ass conference, and they were all about the rushing attack. They led the league in total yards on the ground. Between Dunn, Duckett, and Vick, the coaching staff managed to overcome Vick's shortcomings as a passer. Just because he can run a little bit and hand the ball off a lot doesnt make him a top 10 QB.

Watching Wallcrawler evolve from drawn out expositon to more "Brock" style comments such as "Yeah, brilliant. You figure that out reading the KCS at 2 AM waiting in KCI?" will be fun...

I mean, good points, I agree.

But you really should hire a few clams and sit back...

Mile High Mania · 06-16-2005, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

I cant figure out how the quarterback of the highest scoring offense in the league for the past three years isnt any higher than 10 on this list.

He was higher than 10... #8.

**the Talking Can** · 06-16-2005, 05:45 AM

people still put Manning ahead of Brady?

what more can a guy do?

lawrenceRaider · 06-16-2005, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SideWinder

Vick is probably the best athlete to play the position, but as I said in another thread, until he learns to play QB, i.e. read defenses and make plays in the passing game, he's just another, more athletic Kordell Stewart.

EXACTLY!!!

chagrin · 06-16-2005, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach

That's what I was thinking, either 6th or 7th. No way Vick should be that high.

No dis-respect to McNair, he's a good QB, but injuries keep getting the best out of home. McNair should be lower than Trent IMHO.

I agree, Michael Vick ahead of Green? The whole world saw what happened last season when he was forced to use his arm to win the game, he sucks under pressure if he can't run! I don't know who this guy is, but he obviously needs therapy.

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka · 06-16-2005, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

That's all fine and good... But I don't think many outside of KC buy the Trent Green myth... Just another parity quarterback...

Trent Green myth?? Another parity QB? If Trent is both those things I would guess that makes Plummer just another version of Brian Greise. He should be good, you think he is good, has every thing going for him to be good but in the end he just sucks ass.

And everyone outside of KC can think what they want, we will take our "myth" of a QB watch him carve everyone up to the tune of 280 yards, 2TD's, 19-27, and a 90 rating every game.

ct · 06-16-2005, 07:40 AM

Fine by me, he'll continue to slide in fantasy drafts, so I can get him again!

**Dartgod** · 06-16-2005, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

How did Green even make the list?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco John

That's all fine and good... But I don't think many outside of KC buy the Trent Green myth... Just another parity quarterback...

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

Who would you place above Trent and where would you have him?

Oh, TJ! Still waiting for you to enlighten us.

Not holding my breath....

**mlyonsd** · 06-16-2005, 07:43 AM

Vick looked pretty good against the vaunted Chief defense.

What a joke.

RedNFeisty · 06-16-2005, 07:48 AM

1.Peyton Manning, Colts How much more can he do from a statistical standpoint? Now it's time to win the ring.
2.Brett Favre, Packers He can still make some amazing plays with his arm, but he's not the same player he was a few years back. But we're glad he's back for another season.
3.Daunte Culpepper, Vikings If not for Manning's amazing season, we'd all be talking about what Culpepper did. Now comes the hard part: Doing it without Randy Moss.
4.Michael Vick, Falcons He's a magical player at times, but he has to improve his passing. When that happens, look out.
5.Trent Green, Chiefs He had another huge year in 2004 from a numbers standpoint. He knows how to move the chains.
6.Tom Brady, Patriots He doesn't put up big numbers, but he gets it done when it counts. The guy is a legitimate star.
7.Donovan McNabb, Eagles When he finally got a legitimate weapon in Terrell Owens we saw how good McNabb can be. He elevated his game last season.
8.Steve McNair, Titans Injuries crippled him last season, but he decided to keep playing instead of retiring. He's lost some weight and he's healthy again. But his team is crumbling around him.
9.Matt Hasselbeck, Seahawks He started slow in 2004, but he came on in the end. With a new, fat contract, he's the man in Seattle. With no more worries, he should play more relaxed.
10. Chad Pennington, Jets The one concern with Pennington is his rotator cuff injury. Will he get his velocity back? If not, the Jets are in trouble.

This is how it should have looked.

Coach · 06-16-2005, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod

Oh, TJ! Still waiting for you to enlighten us.

Not holding my breath....

Psh, he won't even bother. I know that Taco is a Broncos homer but to say that he would take Plummer over Green is utterly ridiculous.

Plummer is more less the laughing stock of the league right now among QBs. Even his boy Shannon Sharpe ripped him.

Duck Dog · 06-16-2005, 07:53 AM

Vick shouldn't even be on that list. If it weren't for his wheels, he'd suck.

chagrin · 06-16-2005, 07:55 AM

Taco John, dude. step outside of the Denver vs Chiefs rivalry for a second. go back to Trent's year in Washington:

14 games started
3441 Yards
23 TD 11 INT

Do you remember how shitty that team was? did you even watch anything other than Broncos games that year?

the next year in St. Louis, a team that NOBODY thought would be any good, with the exception of adding Marshall Faulk that year. He went 8 games and has already thrown for 2000 yds AND
16 TD's
5 INT's and had a QB rating of 101

Ahem, where's the myth dude?

**Lzen** · 06-16-2005, 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

people still put Manning ahead of Brady?

what more can a guy do?

Winning games and especially winning championships isn't all about one guy, one postition. What if Manning was the QB of the Pats? Would we be talking about him having 3, 4, 5 titles right now?

The same argument can be used for Green. He's been saddled with an incomplete team since he's been in KC. It's not like he can go over to the defense and be the starting MLB in order to lead the defense.

Brady is a great QB, no doubt. But he's also been blessed by being on the most complete football team in the NFL the past 3 or 4 years.

Duck Dog · 06-16-2005, 07:56 AM

Hell, Jake Delhoume is better than Hasslebeck, McNair and Pennington.

06-15-2005, 07:16 PM
Kerberos Chiefs Baby Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Henderson, NV Casino cash: $10000632	Pete Pricksco's top 10 QB. Trent Green #8 ... WTF??? http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/positi...ankings/OFF/QB Green at #8 ????? Thats Bullshit ... I would put him before Brett Farve and Steve McNair. Farve is close to being done and McNair is a walking injury report for the last couple of years .... ' I don't get this at all .... Pricksco is a dick ... pun intended! 1. Peyton Manning, Colts How much more can he do from a statistical standpoint? Now it's time to win the ring. 2. Tom Brady, Patriots He doesn't put up big numbers, but he gets it done when it counts. The guy is a legitimate star. 3. Daunte Culpepper, Vikings If not for Manning's amazing season, we'd all be talking about what Culpepper did. Now comes the hard part: Doing it without Randy Moss. 4. Donovan McNabb, Eagles When he finally got a legitimate weapon in Terrell Owens we saw how good McNabb can be. He elevated his game last season. 5. Michael Vick, Falcons He's a magical player at times, but he has to improve his passing. When that happens, look out. 6. Brett Favre, Packers He can still make some amazing plays with his arm, but he's not the same player he was a few years back. But we're glad he's back for another season. 7. Steve McNair, Titans Injuries crippled him last season, but he decided to keep playing instead of retiring. He's lost some weight and he's healthy again. But his team is crumbling around him. 8. Trent Green, Chiefs He had another huge year in 2004 from a numbers standpoint. He knows how to move the chains. 9. Matt Hasselbeck, Seahawks He started slow in 2004, but he came on in the end. With a new, fat contract, he's the man in Seattle. With no more worries, he should play more relaxed. 10. Chad Pennington, Jets The one concern with Pennington is his rotator cuff injury. Will he get his velocity back? If not, the Jets are in trouble. WTF????? Pricksco = .
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RedNFeisty Smokin Join Date: May 2003 Location: Wichita Casino cash: $10004900	1.Peyton Manning, Colts How much more can he do from a statistical standpoint? Now it's time to win the ring. 2.Brett Favre, Packers He can still make some amazing plays with his arm, but he's not the same player he was a few years back. But we're glad he's back for another season. 3.Daunte Culpepper, Vikings If not for Manning's amazing season, we'd all be talking about what Culpepper did. Now comes the hard part: Doing it without Randy Moss. 4.Michael Vick, Falcons He's a magical player at times, but he has to improve his passing. When that happens, look out. 5.Trent Green, Chiefs He had another huge year in 2004 from a numbers standpoint. He knows how to move the chains. 6.Tom Brady, Patriots He doesn't put up big numbers, but he gets it done when it counts. The guy is a legitimate star. 7.Donovan McNabb, Eagles When he finally got a legitimate weapon in Terrell Owens we saw how good McNabb can be. He elevated his game last season. 8.Steve McNair, Titans Injuries crippled him last season, but he decided to keep playing instead of retiring. He's lost some weight and he's healthy again. But his team is crumbling around him. 9.Matt Hasselbeck, Seahawks He started slow in 2004, but he came on in the end. With a new, fat contract, he's the man in Seattle. With no more worries, he should play more relaxed. 10. Chad Pennington, Jets The one concern with Pennington is his rotator cuff injury. Will he get his velocity back? If not, the Jets are in trouble. This is how it should have looked. __________________ F.O.C.U.S sportsshrink: Don't bite the hand that feeds you!!!! "We the Fans" feed you Morons!!
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06-16-2005, 07:55 AM	#58
chagrin Giggitty! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Missoula, Mt Casino cash: $9894905	Taco John, dude. step outside of the Denver vs Chiefs rivalry for a second. go back to Trent's year in Washington: 14 games started 3441 Yards 23 TD 11 INT Do you remember how shitty that team was? did you even watch anything other than Broncos games that year? the next year in St. Louis, a team that NOBODY thought would be any good, with the exception of adding Marshall Faulk that year. He went 8 games and has already thrown for 2000 yds AND 16 TD's 5 INT's and had a QB rating of 101 Ahem, where's the myth dude? __________________ Times have changed, so have I, things are better now.
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