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Old 10-13-2005, 09:56 PM  
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The Top 10 Bad Ass Mofos in Sports History

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Old 10-14-2005, 12:46 PM   #46
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Old 10-14-2005, 02:17 PM   #47
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Old 10-14-2005, 02:27 PM   #48
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The main thing I remember about Jack Lambert's style of play was the late-hit, usually accomplished by jumping onto a pile of players like a little girl jumping on a pile of fallen leaves. He's about as Bad-ass as a tattooed My Little Pony.
Lambert WAS a badass. There was a widely circulated rumor during the Seelers glory years that Lambert kicked Joe Greene's ass in the locker room. And Lambert weighed 220 #.
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Old 10-14-2005, 02:32 PM   #49
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I wouldn't call a baseball or basketball player a bad ass either.

Nix the Bird, add George Foreman. Forget the George in his 50's, when he was in his 20's he was the hardest hitting boxer ever. He destroyed everyone he fought....

...well, almost everyone.
Yep, Foreman is another one that would have destroyed Tyson.
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Old 10-14-2005, 02:45 PM   #50
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Lambert WAS a badass. There was a widely circulated rumor during the Seelers glory years that Lambert kicked Joe Greene's ass in the locker room. And Lambert weighed 220 #.
There is widely-circulated film of Dick Butkus actually tackling ball-carriers by himself before the whistle is blown.
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Old 10-14-2005, 02:51 PM   #51
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There is widely-circulated film of Dick Butkus actually tackling ball-carriers by himself before the whistle is blown.
Say what you will about Lambert, everybody in the league was convinced he was bad. There is a good reason why he was the MLB on one of the best D's of all time. I've never heard of anyone accusing Lambert of late hits or any kind of dirty football and I watched the whole thing.
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Old 10-14-2005, 03:12 PM   #52
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Say what you will about Lambert, everybody in the league was convinced he was bad. There is a good reason why he was the MLB on one of the best D's of all time. I've never heard of anyone accusing Lambert of late hits or any kind of dirty football and I watched the whole thing.
He was accused in the very article at the top of this thread:

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...He had a particular taste for Cleveland Browns QB Brian Sipe, who Lambert hit so hard, so late, so many times, Pete Rozelle had to call him in for a meeting. "Brian has a chance to go out of bounds and he decides not to," Lambert said later. "He knows I'm going to hit him. And I do. History."
I'm just going by my own memory of him as a kid. I remember him jumping on a lot of piles; I do not remember any impressive solo hits he made.
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Here's a link to a good article on Jack Lambert that was written by Paul Zimmerman for the Sporting News in 1984. The article is on a site dedicated to Jack Lambert and should be of interest to his fans.

Based on what the article says, I can see why he was so widely hailed for his greatness as a linebacker. A lot of what he was assigned to do probably didn't come across to a kid like me watching him on TV. Like I said, I never saw him make a hit that impressed me, but that may speak more to the fact that I was just a kid. And so maybe I didn't see the things that made the announcers gush so much about his overall play.

http://www.mcmillenandwife.com/lambe..._of_steel.html
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Old 10-14-2005, 03:50 PM   #54
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Here's a link to a good article on Jack Lambert that was written by Paul Zimmerman for the Sporting News in 1984. The article is on a site dedicated to Jack Lambert and should be of interest to his fans.

Based on what the article says, I can see why he was so widely hailed for his greatness as a linebacker. A lot of what he was assigned to do probably didn't come across to a kid like me watching him on TV. Like I said, I never saw him make a hit that impressed me, but that may speak more to the fact that I was just a kid. And so maybe I didn't see the things that made the announcers gush so much about his overall play.

http://www.mcmillenandwife.com/lambe..._of_steel.html
I don't remember him standing out so much but look at all the great players he had around him. It would have been hard to do. But he did have the rest of the league intimidated. At least from what I read and heard. And at only 220# it was even more remarkable.
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Old 10-14-2005, 04:09 PM   #55
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The closest thing the Chiefs have ever had to Jack Lambert is EJ Holub. They were remarkably similar in size and toughness. I met EJ one time and I was most impressed with was how tall he was and how broad shouldered. Yet he tapered down to a small waist. Just like Lambert.
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I'm just going by my own memory of him as a kid. I remember him jumping on a lot of piles; I do not remember any impressive solo hits he made.
Thanks, Dan , for that article. I read all of it and it very much jibes wih my memory. The Sipe thing is puzzling as Sipe was an also ran that never gave the Steelers any trouble that I remember. And it looks like there were 3 late hits over a four year period with Ben Dreith calling two of them. As to the painting that Rooney showed Lambert, I know exactly what it must have depicted that Rooney feared would enrage Lambert. Lambert would stare across the line at the QB, snarling and drooling. Yeah, really drooling. They said he looked like he was insane. Lambert was the real deal and was the leader of the "Steel Curtain".
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What about Jack Dempsey? He would have killed Ali if the two somehow could have made in the ring together!
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What about Jack Dempsey? He would have killed Ali if the two somehow could have made in the ring together!
We could argue that forever but concensus that I have seen says the two best heavyweights ever were Ali and Joe Louis. And , for my money, I'll take Ali because of his speed and quickness. He could do things middleweights couldn't do. And Ali fought one of the toughest fighters ever in Frazier and even managed to wear him out in Manila. No, I don't think Louis or Dempsey could contend with Ali's speed and quickness not to mention his stamina and durability. Ali even finished one fight with a broken jaw. I just can't see those old timers hanging with him. Foreman had the best chance with his punching power but he couldn't do it. In his prime, nobody could beat Ali.
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That's a nice story, but anybody who has ever played any amount of roundball knows if a ball is drained the moment it leaves their fingers. I had that sense with what little bit I used to play and I can only imagine how much more heightened it is with professionals. I'm not trying to take anything away from Bird, I'm just not impressed with the whole claiming victory part before the ball cleared the net.
Ehh... I can usually tell when I miss, when I hit a shot is a lot more hit/miss. Sometimes it feels good leaving your hand and still doesn't go in. Maybe we need to hit the playground and see just how many shots we can predict accurately....
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