Will we make the playoffs?

[Chiefs Pantalones]

[Donger]

Originally Posted by InChiefsHell

I think we can, but we just won't.

And there it is.

[King_Chief_Fan]

[QUOTE=jspchief]It's about recognizing what your team is capable of, based on the performance they've put on the field. The Chiefs have yet to beat a good team on the road, and have mostly only been competitive with other mediocre teams. We only look "great" against lousy teams.

QUOTE]
The Chiefs have yet to beat a good team......period.
Look great against lousy teams?? Buffalo game?

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by cdcox

Ahem. cdcox, not c-mac.

Those odds will do down after I update the power ratings following tomorrow night's game. No, we aren't completely cooked, but getting really close. I'm afraid the margin of error is far too thin now to have a realistic hope.

Oops. I corrected it. Sorry.

[Manila-Chief]

Originally Posted by ROYC75

Nope. 8 - 8 and another middle of the road draft pick.

Nope! The defense holds a team to only 14 points and the O can't score even one T.D. Yes, fairy tales are told ... O could click into high gear ... but not very likely. So, no way!!!

Roy ... I'd like to see us lose out. Get as high of a draft pick as possible so the new coach can start rebuilding. Course he will need better evaluating talent in the front office and a new G.M. Could happen .... well ... maybe in another 30 years....

[jspchief]

After Houston, this team has a very real chance of losing the rest of it's games. Every team we face is better than we are. We will be leaning heavily on the crutch of Arrowhead Stadium.

[Mr. Laz]

we are playing like crap while other teams are getting better and gearing up for a playoff run.


not likely

[StcChief]

Let the rebuilding and player analysis begin for rest of year.
Lucky to be 8-8.

[kregger]

We can go 10-6 and get in but that involves all home wins and 1 on the road(gotta be the Texans)
Only 3 losses in the AFC should win most tiebreakers.

CHEER UP!!

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by kregger

Only 3 losses in the AFC should win most tiebreakers.

sorry to dump on your cheerios(so to speak) ... but i doubt it

jacksonville and denver both have the edge on the tiebreakers

denver is undefeated in divisional games and we have already lost 2

jacksonville is 5-2 in afc and we are 4-3


in common games, jacksonville has already beaten cincy

both denver and jacksonville have easier schedules going forward

[Mr. Kotter]

Originally Posted by kregger

We can go 10-6 and get in but that involves all home wins and 1 on the road(gotta be the Texans)
Only 3 losses in the AFC should win most tiebreakers.

CHEER UP!!

http://home.earthlink.net/~ob1gui/nflrules.htm

Not to piss in your Wheaties, but you should review tie-breaker rules.

Suffice it to say, unless we go 11-5....or 12-4, we can forget about it in all likelihood.

The six postseason participants from each conference will now be seeded as follows:

The division champion with the best record.
The division champion with the second-best record.
The division champion with the third-best record.
The division champion with the fourth-best record.
The Wild Card club with the best record.
The Wild Card club with the second-best record.
The following procedures will be used to break standings ties for postseason playoffs and to determine regular-season schedules.

NOTE: Tie games count as one-half win and one-half loss for both clubs.

TO BREAK A TIE WITHIN A DIVISION
If, at the end of the regular season, two or more clubs in the same division finish with identical won-lost-tied percentages, the following steps will be taken until a champion is determined.

Two Clubs

Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
Strength of victory.
Strength of schedule.
Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best net points in common games.
Best net points in all games.
Best net touchdowns in all games.
Three or More Clubs
(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated during any step, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of the two-club format).

Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games among the clubs).
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
Strength of victory.
Strength of schedule.
Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best net points in common games.
Best net points in all games.
Best net touchdowns in all games.
TO BREAK A TIE FOR THE WILD-CARD TEAM
If it is necessary to break ties to determine the two Wild-Card clubs from each conference, the following steps will be taken.

If the tied clubs are from the same division, apply division tie breaker.
If the tied clubs are from different divisions, apply the following steps.
Two Clubs


Head-to-head, if applicable.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
Strength of victory.
Strength of schedule.
Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best net points in conference games.
Best net points in all games.
Best net touchdowns in all games.
Coin toss.
Three or More Clubs
(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of applicable two-club format.)

Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the two Wild-Card participants.
Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.)
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
Strength of victory.
Strength of schedule.
Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best net points in conference games.
Best net points in all games.
Best net touchdowns in all games.
Coin toss
When the first Wild-Card team has been identified, the procedure is repeated to name the second Wild-Card, i.e., eliminate all but the highest-ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. In situations where three or more teams from the same division are involved in the procedure, the original seeding of the teams remains the same for subsequent applications of the tie breaker if the top-ranked team in that division qualifies for a Wild-Card berth.

OTHER TIE-BREAKING PROCEDURES


Only one club advances to the playoffs in any tie-breaking step. Remaining tied clubs revert to the first step of the applicable division or Wild-Card tie breakers. As an example, if two clubs remain tied in any tie-breaker step after all other clubs have been eliminated, the procedure reverts to step one of the two-club format to determine the winner. When one club wins the tie breaker, all other clubs revert to step 1 of the applicable two-club or three-club format.
In comparing division and conference records or records against common opponents among tied teams, the best won-lost-tied percentage is the deciding factor since teams may have played an unequal number of games.
To determine home-field priority among division titlists, apply Wild-Card tie breakers.
To determine home-field priority for Wild-Card qualifiers, apply division tie breakers (if teams are from the same division) or Wild-Card tie breakers (if teams are from different ivisions).
TIE-BREAKING PROCEDURE FOR SELECTION MEETING
If two or more clubs are tied in the selection order, the strength-of-schedule tie breaker is applied, subject to the following exceptions for playoff clubs:

The Super Bowl winner is last and the Super Bowl loser next-to-last.
Any non-Super Bowl playoff club involved in a tie shall be assigned priority within its segment below that of non-playoff clubs and in the order that the playoff clubs exited from the playoffs. Thus, within a tied segment a playoff club that loses in the Wild-Card game will have priority over a playoff club that loses in the Divisional playoff game, which in turn will have priority over a club that loses in the Conference Championship game. If two tied clubs exited the playoffs in the same round, the tie is broken by strength of schedule.
If any ties cannot be broken by strength of schedule, the divisional or conference tie breakers, whichever are applicable, are applied. Any ties that still exist are broken by a coin flip.

NOTE: If one team wins multiple-team tiebreaker to advance to playoff round, remaining teams revert to step 1 of applicable two-club format, i.e., either in division tiebreaker or wild-card tiebreaker. If two teams in a multiple-tie possess superior marks in a tie-breaking step, this pair of teams advance to the top of the applicable two-club format to break the tie. One team advances to playoff round, while other returns to original group and step 1 of applicable tiebreaker.

[ct]

It ain't over, but it don't look good...

I have a very difficult time seeing that team we saw yesterday win 5-6 more games with our schedule. Denver, San Diego, @Dallas, @Giants, Cincinnati, and we must win at least 3 of those for even the slimmest chance? Hell at this point, I'm not very confident about week 11 @Houston. So, sadly, I say No.

From a thread Friday...
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=128654

Originally Posted by coryt

Best W/L/T head to head - we MUST beat Denver in Arrowhead.

Best W/L/T in the division - Oakland or San Diego MUST beat Denver once, plus KC over Denver at Arrowhead.

Best W/L/T in the conference - this is where we might get em. If the 1st 2 occur, Denver has at least 3 losses in the AFC, currently we have 2. IF, very big IF we avoid any more AFC losses, we would win this tie-breaker if we finish even with Denver.

So just to play out a scenario, it might go like this:

KC remaining schedule:

@BUF - WIN
@HOU - WIN
NE - WIN
DEN - WIN
@DAL - loss
@NYG - loss
SD - WIN
CIN - WIN

KC finishes 11-5, 4-2 in AFC West, 10-2 in AFC. Just to type that is a big stretch!

Denver remaining schedule:

@OAK - WIN
NYJ - WIN
@DAL - loss
@KC - loss
BAL - WIN
@BUF - WIN
OAK - WIN
@SD - loss

Denver finishes 11-5, 4-2 in AFC West, 9-3 in AFC.

That scenario for KC was a stretch on Friday, before we laid an egg in Buffalo. How quickly things can fall to pieces...

[KCTitus]

extremely doubtful.

[morphius]

If you would have asked me after the Raiders game I would have said not likely, but after this week it is an absolute no.

[greg63]

Originally Posted by jspchief

It's not about the scenarios with which we could still make the play-offs. It's not about still being in it "mathematically".

It's about recognizing what your team is capable of, based on the performance they've put on the field. The Chiefs have yet to beat a good team on the road, and have mostly only been competitive with other mediocre teams. We only look "great" against lousy teams.

After a nine game sample, it is clear that we are just mediocre. A mediocre team isn't going to make the play-offs in the AFC this year.

This is true. Its one thing to say it's possible to make the play-offs, but it's the probability that tends to stand out. For long time Chiefs fans who, I believe, want a SB win as badly if not worse than any other it is the probability at this point that we tend to focus on. One thing is for sure, with all speculation aside, all we can do is ride the season out and hope for the best of all probabilities. (JMHO)

[FringeNC]

A Wild Card looks very unlikely, but if we beat Denver, we certainly have a shot at the division, with Denver still having a game at SD.

All is not lost yet.