Schottenhiemer In Cincy??? - Page 4

rtmurphy223 · 09-26-2000, 11:37 AM

NFL Talk Rumor mill is reporting that Marty's name is being tossed around as a possible long term replacement coach in Cincy! OH PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, AND PLEASE!!! Could you guys imagine getting Cincy's first round pick next year if they sign Marty?!?! I know I may be jumping the gun here, but the possiblity of getting a top five pick next year is very exciting! C'mon, SOPaul Brown, make a intelligent management decision for once in your life and sign Marty!

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Fort Chief · 09-26-2000, 03:57 PM

This dip**** probably hated when the fans booed Lin Elliot.

"Stop it guys!!! He's doing the best he can!!! Leave him alone!!!"

tooln · 09-26-2000, 04:07 PM

Clint,

No, it was reported this year, after the Ray Rhodes was fired, before the draft, during the speculation that either the Jets or the Pats might sign him if they couldn't get Behlichek (sp?)<BR>

Mike · 09-26-2000, 04:19 PM

Packfan - That's funny because Wolf was all ready to give us his #1 last year for Marty until Marty wanted to hire his own coaches. That, and he was too cheap becuase he still had to pay for Rhodes' salary. [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]

I also think Marty's under contract for one more year, but I could be wrong. And I'm sure Cincinnati would love to have him. Sure, we've suffered some agonizing playoff losses in the 90s. Did the Bengals even go to the playoffs ONCE in the 90s? We won a 100 games, they LOST 100+.

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Fort Chief · 09-26-2000, 04:43 PM

Giving up the 15th pick is much different than giving up a top 3 pick.<P>

LakerzWorldChamps · 09-26-2000, 05:07 PM

Marty is under contract through 2001.

Earlier in January, Fox reported that GB was offering a 2nd round pick for Marty. The next day ESPN reported that GB was offering a 1st and 4th round pick.

Personally, I don't think, at this stage of the game, that Cinci can be too picky. They've already have talent, they need someone to guide that talent.

Give up with the picks, Brown, and let's get on with it.

GO CHIEFS.

Fort Chief · 09-26-2000, 08:03 PM

I’ve gotta come correct...

As it turns out, Marty is under contract next year.

But I still don’t believe we have a snowball’s chance in hell of getting a top 3 draft pick for Marty Shottenheimer. You’d have to be living in a dream world to believe that would actually happen.

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**DaKCMan AP** · 09-26-2000, 08:06 PM

Cannibal - Well Brown is the owner and it is Cinci, but I agree I don't think we could get that lucky.

pauly24_76 · 09-26-2000, 08:10 PM

Cannibal,

I don't think it's unreasonable to think we can get a first round pick for Marty. He's a proven winner and a hell of a coach.

Cincinatti has had high draft picks for the last couple years and it hasn't done them any good. They need a good coach to manipulate thier talent and Marty could do that.

I'm bored at work right now, I'll discuss anything!

[This message has been edited by Otter (edited 09-26-2000).]

Fort Chief · 09-26-2000, 08:15 PM

Here's what I think Cincy will do with that first round pick.

They'll probably let the malcontent Corey Dillon go and then use the top 3 pick on Deuce McCallister.

Dillon refusing to go into the game is inexusable. It's not the first time he's done it either. Obviosly he doesn't give two ****s about his teammates and that cannot be tolerated, [by an intelligent franchise anyway]. If their smart they'll cut ties with Dillon and draft a new RB next year.<P>

Fort Chief · 09-26-2000, 08:17 PM

Otter,

I agree that it's not unreasonable to get a FIRST ROUND pick for Marty. But NO ONE, not even the Bungles would give up a top 3 pick.

[b]We're talking about the number two or three pick overall here, not the 20th pick.</B>

tooln · 09-27-2000, 12:44 AM

Back in January when there was speculation Marty would fill one of the head coach positions, ESPN radio said Marty didn't want to hamper his new team by having to give KC too much compensation for his signing. ESPN reported that if Marty waited till the 2001 season to coach, not much (if any) compensation would be demanded by Carl Peterson, since it would be the last year of the contract. Marty works for ESPN, so I believe this line of thinking is credible. I would be shocked if we get more than a 3rd rounder if Marty coaches any where next season.

Cannibal · 09-27-2000, 10:04 AM

Adam Teicher (teicher), 09/27/00 08:33 am (reply 479 of 480)
To Da Wolf:

Schottenheimer is under contract for one more year, so the Chiefs could ask for compensation for him. I'd be surprised if he went to Cincinnati. Don't think he's be a good fit for the ownership there.

I think we could get a 2nd tops. But I am with Adam, I would be very surprised to see him going to Cincy...

09-27-2000, 10:09 AM

What about swapping first round picks?? That might be more palatable for CINCY.

Ugly Duck · 09-27-2000, 10:38 AM

Last night on NFL Tonight Marty was asked about the situation in Cincy, about the fact that there fave been decent coaching yet the front office has remained the same over the same period. Marty basically said that the ownership are the problem and until Brown figures out how to make good personnel decisions the 'Nati will go nowhere.

Now if he badmouthed Brown do you think Brown would want him? We all know the clause in Dillon's contract and what a control freak Brown seems to be. I think Marty would shudder at the thought.

redshirt32 · 09-27-2000, 11:16 AM

Gaz:

Re: Your post stating "If Marty gives his lil’ brother a job, that is enough compensation for me. " Can I "me too" that?

Clint:

Re: Post #27..."All you EVER do is talk down to other fans because they don't act the way you wish they would"...not that I am defending Gonzo, but aren't you, at times, just as guilty as Gonzo of this one.

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09-26-2000, 03:57 PM	#46
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09-26-2000, 04:07 PM	#47
tooln Starter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: fayetteville,n.c.28311 Casino cash: $10004900	Clint, No, it was reported this year, after the Ray Rhodes was fired, before the draft, during the speculation that either the Jets or the Pats might sign him if they couldn't get Behlichek (sp?)<BR>
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09-26-2000, 04:19 PM	#48
Mike Starter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Austin Casino cash: $10004900	Packfan - That's funny because Wolf was all ready to give us his #1 last year for Marty until Marty wanted to hire his own coaches. That, and he was too cheap becuase he still had to pay for Rhodes' salary. [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img] I also think Marty's under contract for one more year, but I could be wrong. And I'm sure Cincinnati would love to have him. Sure, we've suffered some agonizing playoff losses in the 90s. Did the Bengals even go to the playoffs ONCE in the 90s? We won a 100 games, they LOST 100+. [This message has been edited by G_Man (edited 09-26-2000).]
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09-26-2000, 04:43 PM	#49
Fort Chief Starter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Texas, USA Casino cash: $10004900	Giving up the 15th pick is much different than giving up a top 3 pick.<P>
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09-26-2000, 05:07 PM	#50
LakerzWorldChamps Rookie Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: RSM, CA, USA Casino cash: $10004900	Marty is under contract through 2001. Earlier in January, Fox reported that GB was offering a 2nd round pick for Marty. The next day ESPN reported that GB was offering a 1st and 4th round pick. Personally, I don't think, at this stage of the game, that Cinci can be too picky. They've already have talent, they need someone to guide that talent. Give up with the picks, Brown, and let's get on with it. GO CHIEFS.
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09-26-2000, 11:37 AM
rtmurphy223 Starter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Yorktown, Indiana Casino cash: $10004900	NFL Talk Rumor mill is reporting that Marty's name is being tossed around as a possible long term replacement coach in Cincy! OH PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, AND PLEASE!!! Could you guys imagine getting Cincy's first round pick next year if they sign Marty?!?! I know I may be jumping the gun here, but the possiblity of getting a top five pick next year is very exciting! C'mon, SOPaul Brown, make a intelligent management decision for once in your life and sign Marty! ------------------ gonzo88
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09-26-2000, 08:03 PM	#51
Fort Chief Starter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Texas, USA Casino cash: $10004900	I’ve gotta come correct... As it turns out, Marty is under contract next year. But I still don’t believe we have a snowball’s chance in hell of getting a top 3 draft pick for Marty Shottenheimer. You’d have to be living in a dream world to believe that would actually happen. [url="http://www.sportserver.com/newsroom/ap/fbo/1997/nfl/kan/feat/archive/011497/kan19459.html"]http://www.sportserver.com/newsroom/ap/fbo/1997/nfl/kan/feat/archive/011497/kan19459.html[/url] [This message has been edited by Cannibal (edited 09-26-2000).]
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09-26-2000, 08:06 PM	#52
DaKCMan AP Beloved & Awesome CP Celebrity Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Florida Casino cash: $6714952	Cannibal - Well Brown is the owner and it is Cinci, but I agree I don't think we could get that lucky.
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09-26-2000, 08:10 PM	#53
pauly24_76 Starter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Kansas City,MO,USA Casino cash: $10004900	Cannibal, I don't think it's unreasonable to think we can get a first round pick for Marty. He's a proven winner and a hell of a coach. Cincinatti has had high draft picks for the last couple years and it hasn't done them any good. They need a good coach to manipulate thier talent and Marty could do that. I'm bored at work right now, I'll discuss anything! [This message has been edited by Otter (edited 09-26-2000).]
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09-26-2000, 08:15 PM	#54
Fort Chief Starter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Texas, USA Casino cash: $10004900	Here's what I think Cincy will do with that first round pick. They'll probably let the malcontent Corey Dillon go and then use the top 3 pick on Deuce McCallister. Dillon refusing to go into the game is inexusable. It's not the first time he's done it either. Obviosly he doesn't give two ****s about his teammates and that cannot be tolerated, [by an intelligent franchise anyway]. If their smart they'll cut ties with Dillon and draft a new RB next year.<P>
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09-26-2000, 08:17 PM	#55
Fort Chief Starter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Texas, USA Casino cash: $10004900	Otter, I agree that it's not unreasonable to get a FIRST ROUND pick for Marty. But NO ONE, not even the Bungles would give up a top 3 pick. [b]We're talking about the number two or three pick overall here, not the 20th pick.</B>
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09-27-2000, 12:44 AM	#56
tooln Starter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: fayetteville,n.c.28311 Casino cash: $10004900	Back in January when there was speculation Marty would fill one of the head coach positions, ESPN radio said Marty didn't want to hamper his new team by having to give KC too much compensation for his signing. ESPN reported that if Marty waited till the 2001 season to coach, not much (if any) compensation would be demanded by Carl Peterson, since it would be the last year of the contract. Marty works for ESPN, so I believe this line of thinking is credible. I would be shocked if we get more than a 3rd rounder if Marty coaches any where next season.
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09-27-2000, 10:04 AM	#57
Cannibal Better to burn out... Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Bible Thumping Country Casino cash: $10010618	Adam Teicher (teicher), 09/27/00 08:33 am (reply 479 of 480) To Da Wolf: Schottenheimer is under contract for one more year, so the Chiefs could ask for compensation for him. I'd be surprised if he went to Cincinnati. Don't think he's be a good fit for the ownership there. I think we could get a 2nd tops. But I am with Adam, I would be very surprised to see him going to Cincy...
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09-27-2000, 10:09 AM	#58
Dr. Red Guest Casino cash: $	What about swapping first round picks?? That might be more palatable for CINCY.
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09-27-2000, 10:38 AM	#59
Ugly Duck MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Petaluma, CA, USA Casino cash: $9955920	Last night on NFL Tonight Marty was asked about the situation in Cincy, about the fact that there fave been decent coaching yet the front office has remained the same over the same period. Marty basically said that the ownership are the problem and until Brown figures out how to make good personnel decisions the 'Nati will go nowhere. Now if he badmouthed Brown do you think Brown would want him? We all know the clause in Dillon's contract and what a control freak Brown seems to be. I think Marty would shudder at the thought.
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09-27-2000, 11:16 AM	#60
redshirt32 Fire Controlman Vet Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: By the Sea Casino cash: $5724936	Gaz: Re: Your post stating "If Marty gives his lil’ brother a job, that is enough compensation for me. " Can I "me too" that? Clint: Re: Post #27..."All you EVER do is talk down to other fans because they don't act the way you wish they would"...not that I am defending Gonzo, but aren't you, at times, just as guilty as Gonzo of this one. ------------------ "When you're not the lead dog in the pack, the view is always the same"
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