Now that the season is over, it's time to bench Wesley... - Page 4

htismaqe · 10-15-2006, 06:21 PM

Dumbass basically spotted them 14 points.

Time to let Pollard learn on the job...

htismaqe · 10-16-2006, 08:46 AM

I'm not saying at all that there's an acceptable excuse for the way Page played.

I'm saying he's a rookie because it means he has the room to IMPROVE.

Wesley is simply not going to improve at this point. He's bad and he's going to stay bad.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-16-2006, 08:47 AM

Greg Wesley should be cut, plain and simple.

The guy is an abomination.

htismaqe · 10-16-2006, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Greg Wesley should be cut, plain and simple.

The guy is an abomination.

Yep. I said it 4 years ago when GRob was here -- Wesley doesn't have the awareness or intelligence to play Cover 2 zone coverage.

Reerun_KC · 10-16-2006, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

How did he spot them 14 points?

Law is responsible for the first 7.

The second one I couldn't tell who was supposed to be covering the slot. Was it Wesley? If so, blame Gunther. Why would you put a safety one-on-one with a WR?

why put a safety on a wr?

Lets see, Pittsburg's freaky hair safety totally shut down Eddie "no hands" Kennison yesterday!

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-16-2006, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Yep. I said it 4 years ago when GRob was here -- Wesley doesn't have the awareness or intelligence to play Cover 2 zone coverage.

It's true. You can have all the tools in the world, (and he doesn't) and without a good football IQ, it doesn't mean shit at the NFL level (see Leaf, Ryan).

**Easy 6** · 10-16-2006, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Yep. I said it 4 years ago when GRob was here -- Wesley doesn't have the awareness or intelligence to play Cover 2 zone coverage.

Agreed. Wesley is an in the box safety, he has decent hands but consistently gives up the big play.

htismaqe · 10-16-2006, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

why put a safety on a wr?

Lets see, Pittsburg's freaky hair safety totally shut down Eddie "no hands" Kennison yesterday!

That matchup favored Polamalu largely because KC's QB and OL can't get the ball to Kennison. Matching up a S on a WR is not a good matchup for the defense, even if the S is Troy Polamalu.

That being said, the purpose of playing zone coverage is to avoid matchups altogether. Each person is responsible for a portion of the field. The problem is that good zone defense requires DISCIPLINE and Wesley doesn't have any...

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-16-2006, 09:00 AM

Greg Wesley plays defense like a bad Madden player. He blows his assignment at the slightest fake looking to make a highlight play, and his breakdown causes a domino effect in the secondary. He's flat-out terrible.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 10-16-2006, 09:02 AM

I like Greg Wesley!

shaneo69 · 10-16-2006, 02:47 PM

I thought Page sucked @ss yesterday. Is it possible that we're over-rating his potential because of all the BS we heard from the media during training camp? This guy was a 7th rounder. Most 7th rounders get cut, and those that don't usually play special teams exclusively.

Pollard, OTOH, was a 2nd rounder. He should be playing at SS. At FS, we need a guy who is the smartest player on the field, as Deron Cherry was in his heyday.

But then, we apparently never look at intelligence as a factor when drafting safeties.

King_Chief_Fan · 10-16-2006, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I'm not saying at all that there's an acceptable excuse for the way Page played.

I'm saying he's a rookie because it means he has the room to IMPROVE.

Wesley is simply not going to improve at this point. He's bad and he's going to stay bad.

I loved the way he bounced off Washington for a Pitt TD.
I thought Warfield was back............ but, to your point, he has
room to improve.

shaneo69 · 10-16-2006, 03:05 PM

Had we not given Wesley and Woods big new contracts after the 2003 fluke season, we probably would've kept former 7th rounders Harts and Pile last season.

Mecca · 10-16-2006, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by shaneo69

Had we not given Wesley and Woods big new contracts after the 2003 fluke season, we probably would've kept former 7th rounders Harts and Pile last season.

Or....we could have drafted Troy Polamalu with our pick that year seeing as he went with our pick that we traded with Pittsburgh. Would you rather have him or Larry Johnson?

Mr. Laz · 10-16-2006, 04:22 PM

jarrad page played like total crap yesterday as well.

at least a couple blown assignments ... some missed tackles.

entire secondary sucked up the place

JBucc · 10-16-2006, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Or....we could have drafted Troy Polamalu with our pick that year seeing as he went with our pick that we traded with Pittsburgh. Would you rather have him or Larry Johnson?

I'd rather trade up and get Charles Rogers. That guy's gonna be a stud.

Sorry I couldn't help myself.

10-15-2006, 06:21 PM
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10219900	Now that the season is over, it's time to bench Wesley... Dumbass basically spotted them 14 points. Time to let Pollard learn on the job...
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10-16-2006, 08:46 AM	#46
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10219900	I'm not saying at all that there's an acceptable excuse for the way Page played. I'm saying he's a rookie because it means he has the room to IMPROVE. Wesley is simply not going to improve at this point. He's bad and he's going to stay bad.
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10-16-2006, 08:47 AM	#47
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7749572	Greg Wesley should be cut, plain and simple. The guy is an abomination. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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10-16-2006, 09:00 AM	#53
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7749572	Greg Wesley plays defense like a bad Madden player. He blows his assignment at the slightest fake looking to make a highlight play, and his breakdown causes a domino effect in the secondary. He's flat-out terrible. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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10-16-2006, 09:02 AM	#54
Hog's Gone Fishin Fish are scared of me Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $240477	I like Greg Wesley!
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10-16-2006, 02:47 PM	#55
shaneo69 Smug Weasel Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Bleachers at Busch Casino cash: $10004900	I thought Page sucked @ss yesterday. Is it possible that we're over-rating his potential because of all the BS we heard from the media during training camp? This guy was a 7th rounder. Most 7th rounders get cut, and those that don't usually play special teams exclusively. Pollard, OTOH, was a 2nd rounder. He should be playing at SS. At FS, we need a guy who is the smartest player on the field, as Deron Cherry was in his heyday. But then, we apparently never look at intelligence as a factor when drafting safeties. __________________ "I like Chiefs president Carl Peterson. I respect his business savvy. I envy his management skills and his penchant never to be driven by the whims of popularity. I admire his willingness to take responsibility for decisions that don’t work out the way he would have wanted." - Rufus, from KCChiefs.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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10-16-2006, 03:05 PM	#57
shaneo69 Smug Weasel Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Bleachers at Busch Casino cash: $10004900	Had we not given Wesley and Woods big new contracts after the 2003 fluke season, we probably would've kept former 7th rounders Harts and Pile last season. __________________ "I like Chiefs president Carl Peterson. I respect his business savvy. I envy his management skills and his penchant never to be driven by the whims of popularity. I admire his willingness to take responsibility for decisions that don’t work out the way he would have wanted." - Rufus, from KCChiefs.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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10-16-2006, 04:22 PM	#59
Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	jarrad page played like total crap yesterday as well. at least a couple blown assignments ... some missed tackles. entire secondary sucked up the place __________________
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