Peterson on hotseat? - Page 4

penchief · 12-21-2006, 04:28 PM

According to Sports Illustrated.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...k15/index.html

FringeNC · 12-21-2006, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Why would Clark come in and fire the guy thats made his family a ton of money?

That's another way in which Peterson gets a free ride. What NFL team DOESN'T sell out its home games?

SLAG · 12-21-2006, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

That's another way in which Peterson gets a free ride. What NFL team DOESN'T sell out its home games?

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**Skip Towne** · 12-21-2006, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I'm serious.

It's so easy for people to say "shitcan CP" but no one has a solution on who to replace him with. I'm not a CP apologist by any stretch of the imagination, but I can't come up with a realistic replacement, either.

Scott Pioli of the Pats if he can be had.

kc-nd · 12-21-2006, 08:51 PM

Wouldn't it be funny if Carl Peterson went to work some day, started looking at Chiefsplanet, realized he was going to get fired, and went home for the day.

And behind the scenes is Gunther Cunningham with a whole lot of on-line names spreading rumors on Chiefsplanet.

Ha, ha, ha,

SLAG · 12-21-2006, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kc-nd

Wouldn't it be funny if Carl Peterson went to work some day, started looking at Chiefsplanet, realized he was going to get fired, and went home for the day.

And behind the scenes is Gunther Cunningham with a whole lot of on-line names spreading rumors on Chiefsplanet.

Ha, ha, ha,

So thats who you are

milkman · 12-21-2006, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Exactly.

As I said in one of the other threads, either of those two would basically be like having Carl Peterson Jr. at the helm.

This is the dumbest ****ing argument ever.

There are a lot of front office personnel people that work in the background for other teams around the league.

The fact that they don't get any notoriety among the NFL fan base doesn't mean that there aren't qualified candidates.

I bet no one had ever heard of Scott Pioli before he started working with Belichick.

I highly doubt anyone had heard of AJ Smith when he took over in San Diego after John Butler died.

Just because you don't know any names, if Clark Hunt decided to replace Carl, he has the connections, and the knowledge of the NFL personnel people that are/would be available.

SLAG · 12-21-2006, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

This is the dumbest ****ing argument ever.

There are a lot of front office personnel people that work in the background for other teams around the league.

The fact that they don't get any notoriety among the NFL fan base doesn't mean that there aren't qualified candidates.

I bet no one had ever heard of Scott Pioli before he started working with Belichick.

I highly doubt anyone had heard of AJ Smith when he took over in San Diego after John Butler died.

Just because you don't know any names, if Clark Hunt decided to replace Carl, he has the connections, and the knowledge of the NFL personnel people that are/would be available.

i bet the nfl is just like any other company im sure clark has access to the HR files on everyone..

hes been attending and watching for a long time... im sure he knows he does not what to repeat his fathers mistakes no matter what ever they might be

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-21-2006, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

This is the dumbest ****ing argument ever.

There are a lot of front office personnel people that work in the background for other teams around the league.

The fact that they don't get any notoriety among the NFL fan base doesn't mean that there aren't qualified candidates.

I bet no one had ever heard of Scott Pioli before he started working with Belichick.

I highly doubt anyone had heard of AJ Smith when he took over in San Diego after John Butler died.

Just because you don't know any names, if Clark Hunt decided to replace Carl, he has the connections, and the knowledge of the NFL personnel people that are/would be available.

Actually, I know exactly who Denny Thum and Bill Kuharich are. And I'm not saying they aren't qualified. They are. However, I'm of the opinion that IF either of them were to be named CP's replacement, things wouldn't change much around here. Thum's been CP's "assistant" since '89 or '90, IIRC. So, what he's learned, he's learned from Carl. Is that a good thing? I guess it depends on your view, and what changes you want to see made.

It has nothing to do with notoriety. I just think it would take someone from outside the organization to move things in the right direction.

IF I'm Clark Hunt, and IF I want to truly make this my own, I shake up the entire FO.

Personally, I don't see Carl going anywhere until his contract is up....

**cdcox** · 12-21-2006, 09:40 PM

Here is the way I see it. Clark Hunt was 5 yrs old when his Dad won the SB. He has watched his dad be revered all his life. He has just joined the most exclusive club in the world. He is a young man among NFL owners and has 30-40 years ahead of him. He is an ambitious man, haveing outstanding academic and atheletic performance and SMU. He won't want to sit around for 30 years being a whipping boy for the Jerry Jones' of the league.

Clark Hunt will want to make his bones.

There is only one way to do that.

Does that mean that Carl is out in 2007? Probably not.

But I would be surprised if Clark Hunt will be satisfied with running a financially successful franchise. That won't allow him to be a leader in his new club, like his father was. He'll want the brass ring and the respect it brings among his peers.

milkman · 12-21-2006, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Actually, I know exactly who Denny Thum and Bill Kuharich are. And I'm not saying they aren't qualified. They are. However, I'm of the opinion that IF either of them were to be named CP's replacement, things wouldn't change much around here. Thum's been CP's "assistant" since '89 or '90, IIRC. So, what he's learned, he's learned from Carl. Is that a good thing? I guess it depends on your view, and what changes you want to see made.

It has nothing to do with notoriety. I just think it would take someone from outside the organization to move things in the right direction.

IF I'm Clark Hunt, and IF I want to truly make this my own, I shake up the entire FO.

Personally, I don't see Carl going anywhere until his contract is up....

I am not talking about Kuharich or Thum.

I am talking about personnel people with other teams around the league.

Do you know who Scott Pioli's right hand man is?
How about AJ Smith's or Floyd Reese's?
Who is in the pesonnel department for Seattle, or Philly?

There are plenty of personnel people throughout the league that none of us have ever heard of.

I know that Jeffrey Smith worked for Reese at one time.
I don't know if he still does, but he'd be a guy I wouldn't mind Hunt taking a look at for the GM position.

BWillie · 12-21-2006, 09:56 PM

If Carl Peterson gets canned he'll be the most saught after GM in football by other NFL teams. Firing him would be dumber than trading Larry Johnson for a sixth round draft pick. It's easy to make Carl into your scapegoat because of the Chiefs lack of playoff success, which is obviously what the entire planet has done. Yep, fire a guy who gets you in position to make the playoffs every year. Great idea. Must the GM's fault when the Chiefs go 10-6 and don't make the playoffs or go 13-3 and don't make the Super Bowl. It has got to be the GM's fault that almost every single great Chiefs season has had a bad year before it. Yeah, he should of rebuilded those years instead of going 13-3 11-5. Has to be the GM's fault right?

**the Talking Can** · 12-21-2006, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie007

If Carl Peterson gets canned he'll be the most saught after GM in football by other NFL teams. Firing him would be dumber than trading Larry Johnson for a sixth round draft pick. It's easy to make Carl into your scapegoat because of the Chiefs lack of playoff success, which is obviously what the entire planet has done. Yep, fire a guy who gets you in position to make the playoffs every year. Great idea. Must the GM's fault when the Chiefs go 10-6 and don't make the playoffs or go 13-3 and don't make the Super Bowl. It has got to be the GM's fault that almost every single great has been a bad year before it. Yeah, he should of rebuilded those years instead of going 13-3 11-5. Has to be the GM's fault right?

you're what CP calls a "real fan".....we just say "idiot"

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-21-2006, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I am not talking about Kuharich or Thum.

I was......

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Originally Posted by shaneo69

I wouldn't be surprised to see Peterson step down at the end of this season (but only as President and GM, staying as CEO) and letting Thum and Kuharich take over the President and GM roles.

This would not do anything to make me more optimistic about the future of this franchise.

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Originally Posted by ME

Exactly.

As I said in one of the other threads, either of those two would basically be like having Carl Peterson Jr. at the helm.

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Originally Posted by YOU

This is the dumbest ****ing argument ever.

There are a lot of front office personnel people that work in the background for other teams around the league.

The fact that they don't get any notoriety among the NFL fan base doesn't mean that there aren't qualified candidates.

I bet no one had ever heard of Scott Pioli before he started working with Belichick.

I highly doubt anyone had heard of AJ Smith when he took over in San Diego after John Butler died.

Just because you don't know any names, if Clark Hunt decided to replace Carl, he has the connections, and the knowledge of the NFL personnel people that are/would be available.

Where exactly did I say anything about other teams FO people?

milkman · 12-21-2006, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I was......

Where exactly did I say anything about other teams FO people?

My apologies for the confusion.
I originally quoted the wrong post.

This is the one I I intended to quote, and was responding to:

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I'm serious.

It's so easy for people to say "shitcan CP" but no one has a solution on who to replace him with. I'm not a CP apologist by any stretch of the imagination, but I can't come up with a realistic replacement, either.

**Bowser** · 12-21-2006, 10:16 PM

My wife's cousin claims he taught Clark how to drive a stick shift transmission in the parking lot of Worlds of Fun. If Clark doesn't fire Carl, wifey's cousin should go kick his ass.

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cdcox www.nfl-forecast.com Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $2051769	Here is the way I see it. Clark Hunt was 5 yrs old when his Dad won the SB. He has watched his dad be revered all his life. He has just joined the most exclusive club in the world. He is a young man among NFL owners and has 30-40 years ahead of him. He is an ambitious man, haveing outstanding academic and atheletic performance and SMU. He won't want to sit around for 30 years being a whipping boy for the Jerry Jones' of the league. Clark Hunt will want to make his bones. There is only one way to do that. Does that mean that Carl is out in 2007? Probably not. But I would be surprised if Clark Hunt will be satisfied with running a financially successful franchise. That won't allow him to be a leader in his new club, like his father was. He'll want the brass ring and the respect it brings among his peers.
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