Trent Green Now A Kansas City Chief - Page 4

AJKCFAN · 04-20-2001, 06:02 PM

Green goes to the Chiefs for the 12th pick.

Details are sketchy, but it's on cbssportsline.com now

Mosbonian · 04-20-2001, 07:55 PM

Denver Chief:

Let me ask you this:

What do you think we got (will get)out of this draft?

We don't have a pick in the first 2 rounds and we got a 31 y/o gimpy knee'd QB that will last all of one game when a shot at his knee will take him down for the season. Then what are we stuck with? The same Bubby Brister that we all laughed about last year when the Broncs were pinning their hopes on him.

We missed the chance to draft a good D-line stud or if we were lucky, pick up a RB if something odd happened.

Sorry if I don't share your optimism about this trade...

mmaddog
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CanadaKC · 04-20-2001, 07:59 PM

Bets case scenario: Green is the second coming of Joe Montana, it just took Vermeil and KC to let it be known.
And since the ladies on the other BB seem absolutely thrilled with the Green deal, the babe factor at Arrowhead dramatically improves. Win Superbowl.

Worse case scenario: Green is the second coming of Ron Duguay (ex-New York Ranger). Translation: brings in the ladies, can't play worth crap. Knee gives out in
week three. Bubby to the rescue. Gonzo can't wait to sign elsewhere.

Zebedee DuBois · 04-20-2001, 08:58 PM

Wow, I just checked in on this board and learned the news. Green & Holmes. Whew.
Dang, I wanted to see what was there for the 12th, but all things considered... if we had to make the trade, I think we did pretty well to get the 5th rounder and Horne.

I hope they suprise us (in a good way) next fall.

Zebedee DuBois · 04-20-2001, 09:00 PM

I have no idea who we want in the 3rd round.
What do the more draft-savvy think?

Gary · 04-20-2001, 09:02 PM

Hey guys...I'm just a Chief's fan...FOR BETTER OR FOR WORSE. So, I for one am just going to sit back & let things unfold for themselves. I agree with HCchief. WAY TOO MUCH NEGATIVITY! Everyone's life in here will still go on even if KC traded all their picks to Cleveland for the right to talk to Ty Detmer. Let's stop all the "Raw Raw" crap & just be Chief's fans!

Zebedee DuBois · 04-20-2001, 09:07 PM

You are right, Gary.
It wasn't like we were going to address all our needs with that one pick. "With the 12th pick, the Chiefs pick the Vick/McAllister/Defensive Stud for Gaz Combo platter." (that woulda been kinda cool though)

Go Chiefs.

JOhn · 04-20-2001, 09:09 PM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Zebedee DuBois [/i]
[B]Defensive Stud for Gaz Combo platter[/B][/QUOTE]

LOL that is a good one...hehe :D

DenverChief · 04-20-2001, 09:09 PM

Mark, Please understand if we would have kept our pick we would have had Brister or Dilfer or Buerline as our starting QB's do I really have to spell it out for you? Green was our best option we had precious little cap space to be able to get all of our draft picks signed if we kept our #1 (how much you think Tomlinson or Mcallister would have wanted?) and we wouldn't have a good QB Buerline is more injured than Green ...Dilfer is weak armed...Collins I know just could not be our starter YET...Greens current contract is very Cap friendly...if we would have drafted Brees at #12 he would have wanted a deal compable to what Vick is going to get...i don't see how you can be angry about this it is obvious to me the Chiefs made the Best deals possible

tommykat · 04-20-2001, 09:10 PM

CANADAKC....
What ever you do, don't come over here bashing the women! I'm on here quit a bit and the other. So don't start anything. We all get along well here. Besides being a lady, I know my football too, and am trying to increase my knowledge. Enough said....:)

Zebedee DuBois · 04-20-2001, 09:16 PM

I think the offense is pretty set now. Maybe pick up another WR and OL. But most of the remaining picks should be on defense. The DL & secondary could use some bolstering.

bkkcoh · 04-20-2001, 09:31 PM

I am not too concerned with the way the offense was set up in St. Louis, they didn't have a tight-end that could line up as a wide receiver. They would have been creamin' their uni's to have an athletic specimen like Tony G. Look to A l S. to have quite a few tight-end wrinkles in place for Tony G. He would be absolutely crazy not too. how potent is our offense going to be this up coming season??? [b]Quite potent[/b] I believe. But we will see how the season unfolds.

I look to for the Chiefs to draft additional defensive help and receiver depth to give the 4th and 5th receivers on our roster to challenge them for the roster spots.

donkhater · 04-20-2001, 09:38 PM

I wouldn't mind seeing the Chiefs use that 5th rounder we got from the Rams for Bill Grammatica.

Grammatica, Strazynski (sp?), Horne and NO Stock? Yeah, our Special teams would be WAY better.

milkman · 04-20-2001, 09:39 PM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by CanadaKC [/i]
[B] The whole "Vermeil will only be here for a short time so we have to win now thing"...
could be a recipe for disaster. [/B][/QUOTE]

This is one of the reasons that I have been so outspoken in my criticism of hiring VD (I like that nickname for him, jq, thanks).
My thoughts on this deal for Green mirrors jl80 and mmaddog. Nap thoughts on Holmes also represent my feelings.
I heard about the SD/Atlanta trade and the "Bono" Brister signing on my way home from work and was interested in everyone's thoughts. So I got on the board to read about them. Imagine my surprise and dismay when I see this posted. I haven't even read about Holmes yet.
I'm not happy about any of this!

bishop_74 · 04-20-2001, 09:42 PM

Well, I for one have waited 10 years, that 7 years too long, and if he can do it, which I have faith in the man, then I think it is worth it.

sun · 04-20-2001, 09:43 PM

top 10 reasons we had to make the green trade:
10. the ladies like him
9. al wanted him
8. al really wanted him
7. al really really wanted him
6. looks cool in red
5. al really really really wanted him
4. dick wanted him
3. dick really wanted him
2. dick really really wanted him
1. Tony Gonzales ( the real only reason) , put your self in tg's shoes: im a real live offensive game breaker, the best tight end in football, in my prime and the chiefs want to jerk me around with bubby or trent dilfer or steve b. or even worse a rookie????.......i got three words for ya: I'M OUTTA HERE!!!!..........this move keeps tg in kc for years to come

on priest holmes: i have watched him a lot ( have a friend who plays for baltimore)......he is a good runner, reciever, blocker.......not great but very good......what i like the most about him is he is tough....very tough.....will challenge any tackler.....not afraid to go inside......always delivers the blow instead of taking it....if we get him, most of us will reallly like him

04-20-2001, 07:55 PM	#46
Mosbonian On Hiatus Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $1089700	Denver Chief: Let me ask you this: What do you think we got (will get)out of this draft? We don't have a pick in the first 2 rounds and we got a 31 y/o gimpy knee'd QB that will last all of one game when a shot at his knee will take him down for the season. Then what are we stuck with? The same Bubby Brister that we all laughed about last year when the Broncs were pinning their hopes on him. We missed the chance to draft a good D-line stud or if we were lucky, pick up a RB if something odd happened. Sorry if I don't share your optimism about this trade... mmaddog ************* Last edited by Mosbonian; 04-20-2001 at 07:57 PM..
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04-20-2001, 07:59 PM	#47
CanadaKC Lord of the SB Rings Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Canada Casino cash: $6378668	Bets case scenario: Green is the second coming of Joe Montana, it just took Vermeil and KC to let it be known. And since the ladies on the other BB seem absolutely thrilled with the Green deal, the babe factor at Arrowhead dramatically improves. Win Superbowl. Worse case scenario: Green is the second coming of Ron Duguay (ex-New York Ranger). Translation: brings in the ladies, can't play worth crap. Knee gives out in week three. Bubby to the rescue. Gonzo can't wait to sign elsewhere.
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04-20-2001, 08:58 PM	#48
Zebedee DuBois Veteran Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: floating in a tin can Casino cash: $425199	Wow, I just checked in on this board and learned the news. Green & Holmes. Whew. Dang, I wanted to see what was there for the 12th, but all things considered... if we had to make the trade, I think we did pretty well to get the 5th rounder and Horne. I hope they suprise us (in a good way) next fall. __________________ What am I even doing here?
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04-20-2001, 09:00 PM	#49
Zebedee DuBois Veteran Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: floating in a tin can Casino cash: $425199	I have no idea who we want in the 3rd round. What do the more draft-savvy think? __________________ What am I even doing here?
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Gary The Shepherd Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Sunny Florida Casino cash: $9965472	Hey guys...I'm just a Chief's fan...FOR BETTER OR FOR WORSE. So, I for one am just going to sit back & let things unfold for themselves. I agree with HCchief. WAY TOO MUCH NEGATIVITY! Everyone's life in here will still go on even if KC traded all their picks to Cleveland for the right to talk to Ty Detmer. Let's stop all the "Raw Raw" crap & just be Chief's fans!
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04-20-2001, 06:02 PM
AJKCFAN Head Chief, Esq. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: New York Casino cash: $911798	Green goes to the Chiefs for the 12th pick. Details are sketchy, but it's on cbssportsline.com now
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04-20-2001, 09:07 PM	#51
Zebedee DuBois Veteran Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: floating in a tin can Casino cash: $425199	You are right, Gary. It wasn't like we were going to address all our needs with that one pick. "With the 12th pick, the Chiefs pick the Vick/McAllister/Defensive Stud for Gaz Combo platter." (that woulda been kinda cool though) Go Chiefs. __________________ What am I even doing here?
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04-20-2001, 09:09 PM	#52
JOhn El' Barto Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Cody, WY / Tucson AZ Casino cash: $9964900	[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Zebedee DuBois [/i] [B]Defensive Stud for Gaz Combo platter[/B][/QUOTE] LOL that is a good one...hehe :D
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04-20-2001, 09:09 PM	#53
DenverChief Pedantic Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Rocky Ford Casino cash: $4702617	Mark, Please understand if we would have kept our pick we would have had Brister or Dilfer or Buerline as our starting QB's do I really have to spell it out for you? Green was our best option we had precious little cap space to be able to get all of our draft picks signed if we kept our #1 (how much you think Tomlinson or Mcallister would have wanted?) and we wouldn't have a good QB Buerline is more injured than Green ...Dilfer is weak armed...Collins I know just could not be our starter YET...Greens current contract is very Cap friendly...if we would have drafted Brees at #12 he would have wanted a deal compable to what Vick is going to get...i don't see how you can be angry about this it is obvious to me the Chiefs made the Best deals possible
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04-20-2001, 09:16 PM	#55
Zebedee DuBois Veteran Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: floating in a tin can Casino cash: $425199	I think the offense is pretty set now. Maybe pick up another WR and OL. But most of the remaining picks should be on defense. The DL & secondary could use some bolstering. __________________ What am I even doing here?
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04-20-2001, 09:31 PM	#56
bkkcoh MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Lewis Center, Ohio USA Casino cash: $9805595	I am not too concerned with the way the offense was set up in St. Louis, they didn't have a tight-end that could line up as a wide receiver. They would have been creamin' their uni's to have an athletic specimen like Tony G. Look to A l S. to have quite a few tight-end wrinkles in place for Tony G. He would be absolutely crazy not too. how potent is our offense going to be this up coming season??? [b]Quite potent[/b] I believe. But we will see how the season unfolds. I look to for the Chiefs to draft additional defensive help and receiver depth to give the 4th and 5th receivers on our roster to challenge them for the roster spots. __________________ Brian K. Aspire to Inspire before you Expire
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donkhater Brilliant!! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Indiana, USA Casino cash: $10014051	I wouldn't mind seeing the Chiefs use that 5th rounder we got from the Rams for Bill Grammatica. Grammatica, Strazynski (sp?), Horne and NO Stock? Yeah, our Special teams would be WAY better. __________________ The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants
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04-20-2001, 09:39 PM	#58
milkman Dumbass! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leading the Marty bashing Casino cash: $10029395	[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by CanadaKC [/i] [B] The whole "Vermeil will only be here for a short time so we have to win now thing"... could be a recipe for disaster. [/B][/QUOTE] This is one of the reasons that I have been so outspoken in my criticism of hiring VD (I like that nickname for him, jq, thanks). My thoughts on this deal for Green mirrors jl80 and mmaddog. Nap thoughts on Holmes also represent my feelings. I heard about the SD/Atlanta trade and the "Bono" Brister signing on my way home from work and was interested in everyone's thoughts. So I got on the board to read about them. Imagine my surprise and dismay when I see this posted. I haven't even read about Holmes yet. I'm not happy about any of this! __________________
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04-20-2001, 09:42 PM	#59
bishop_74 Veteran Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Denver, CO. USA Casino cash: $8664993	Well, I for one have waited 10 years, that 7 years too long, and if he can do it, which I have faith in the man, then I think it is worth it.
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sun Tacklen' Fuel Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Farmington, Mo. Casino cash: $10004900	top 10 reasons we had to make the green trade: 10. the ladies like him 9. al wanted him 8. al really wanted him 7. al really really wanted him 6. looks cool in red 5. al really really really wanted him 4. dick wanted him 3. dick really wanted him 2. dick really really wanted him 1. Tony Gonzales ( the real only reason) , put your self in tg's shoes: im a real live offensive game breaker, the best tight end in football, in my prime and the chiefs want to jerk me around with bubby or trent dilfer or steve b. or even worse a rookie????.......i got three words for ya: I'M OUTTA HERE!!!!..........this move keeps tg in kc for years to come on priest holmes: i have watched him a lot ( have a friend who plays for baltimore)......he is a good runner, reciever, blocker.......not great but very good......what i like the most about him is he is tough....very tough.....will challenge any tackler.....not afraid to go inside......always delivers the blow instead of taking it....if we get him, most of us will reallly like him __________________ "they'll turn us all into beggars cause they're easier to please, i aint gonna eat no government cheese"......the Rainmakers
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