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Old 07-04-2007, 11:47 PM  
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A morality question?

If you were ordered to unleash a Nuclear Bomb on an enemy could you do it?

Could you as an individual take on the responsibility of killing potentially millions? When I was younger I felt the answer was an easy yes. As I grow in wisdom my moral compass says it might not be easy to do. In fact I doubt I could do it. Could you?


Additional info at the request of posters. You don't know who is targeted. Your area has not been hit by a Nuke but it was hit by a large bombing incident where 100s died. You will not be directly protecting your family.

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Old 07-05-2007, 05:45 PM   #46
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Yes, they are going to win. I was born in June '45 and some of my first toys were little cars from Japan. They were held together by tabs, not screws. When you took them apart it said "Schlitz" on the inside. They are very industrious little fuckers.
I had the same toys, then the "6 transistor" radio. Its all a plot I tell ya.

*edit* at least we beat them in a hot dog eating constest, finally.
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Old 07-05-2007, 05:48 PM   #47
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But let's say you're correct, all we had to do was show them the bomb or drop it on a base with no civilians as the link suggests as a demonstration. These bombs were dropped mostly on civilians.
A demonstration, eh?

Well, for one, what would happen if it were a dud? Giving the Japanese a physics package would have been a bad idea.

Two, I assume that you'd be willing to fly that mission? "Okay, Japanese. We are going to show you our new weapon. The plane carrying it will arrive over Tokyo Bay at 0700 hours on Thursday. Please don't shoot at it."

Can we assume that you are also opposed to the firebombing of Tokyo, too?
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Old 07-05-2007, 05:50 PM   #48
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I had the same toys, then the "6 transistor" radio. Its all a plot I tell ya.

*edit* at least we beat them in a hot dog eating constest, finally.
I didn't think they had the first transistor radios. The transistor was invented by a team of scientists from Bell Laboratories in 1959 I think. So it was probably '60 or '61 before we had those. And I don't think the Japs had any silicon anyway.
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Old 07-05-2007, 06:54 PM   #49
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I heard them people are really good at making things really tiny too.
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Old 07-05-2007, 07:07 PM   #50
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I had the same toys, then the "6 transistor" radio. Its all a plot I tell ya.

*edit* at least we beat them in a hot dog eating constest, finally.
You guys were lucky.

I had a rolled up sock.
We called it a ball.
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Old 07-05-2007, 07:36 PM   #51
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You guys were lucky.

I had a rolled up sock.
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Phobia had only one Army man.
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Old 07-05-2007, 07:43 PM   #52
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Phobia had only one Army man.
And that soldier was a concientious objector who could only do paperwork stateside.
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Old 07-05-2007, 07:45 PM   #53
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I could pretend that my sock-ball was a grenade and blow his Army man up!
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Old 07-05-2007, 07:46 PM   #54
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I could pretend that my sock-ball was a grenade and blow his Army man up!
He'd just build a fort out of his only Leggo.
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Old 07-05-2007, 07:52 PM   #55
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Well then, he has a Leggo up on me.
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Old 07-05-2007, 07:54 PM   #56
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Old 07-05-2007, 08:27 PM   #57
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Yes, unless by "[y]ou don't know who is targeted" you really mean that this would be a randomly targeted nuke which would make my answer no.
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Old 07-05-2007, 08:28 PM   #58
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Old 07-05-2007, 08:29 PM   #59
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But let's say you're correct, all we had to do was show them the bomb or drop it on a base with no civilians as the link suggests as a demonstration. These bombs were dropped mostly on civilians.
Civilian casualties were not really taken into consideration by EITHER side in WWII. We bombed the hell out of Germany, Germany did the same to most of Europe, and Japan raped Asia and the Pacific. As a matter of fact, the branch of the Navy that I have belonged to for the past 20yrs was was brought about specifically because the Japanese were targeting unarmed US civilian construction workers in the Pacific.
I've spent some time in Japan and met some really nice folks, but there is no doubt in my mind that the 1930's-40's version of the Japanese Empire would have happily killed or enslaved every man, woman, and child in the United States if that is what it took for them to get to our resources.
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Old 07-05-2007, 08:32 PM   #60
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I think those cars cost a dime.
You and you're family had a dime to spend?

Lucky rich bastard!!!!
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