Are we better at LB?

[runnercyclist]

I've watched all three preseason games and I must say I expected to be impressed with this group. DJ should be better with another year of experience and I'm all for Bell losing his job.

I've not seen the gains from DJ I'd hoped. Edwards hasn't shown much and Nap Harris has looked nappy. Key Fox (one of my personal favs) even looks like he's forgotten how to tackle.

This squad should be better than last year. Have you seen improvement or will we?

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by TEX

FINALLY we agree on something!

Remember that preseason game last year when Mike went for it instead of kicking the filed goal and Herm called him out for it afterwards? IMO, that was the begining of the end. You watch what happens to Solari after this season. Herm's gona throw him under the bus and say some crap like,"I gave him a chance."

ChiefNJ mentioned it earlier today - Herm kept Solari to be the last "Vermeil" scapegoat.

I think you're right.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

ChiefNJ mentioned it earlier today - Herm kept Solari to be the last "Vermeil" scapegoat.

I think you're right.

Yep. He KNEW he could control Solari. He knew he could not control Saundars. That's why Herm said stuff like he didn't see the point in having an OC that would leave to be a HC. The real reason is that Herm is all controlling while being a puppet himself. He won't hire anyone who could one day be a threat. THIS is what my friends in New York meant when they said ,"You'll see." THIS is what I was so afraid of the second Herm was named HC. I knew we would get to this point, we just got here quicker than I expected.

My Uncle made a great observation while watching Hard Knocks last week. He said that Herm isn't a good coach, but he is schrewd and is a survivor. He's right.

[LOCOChief]

Originally Posted by cdcox

Edwards went once, as an alternate. The odds are long that he will turn in a probowl performance this season.

It's funny either our players are so old they are over the hill and past their prime, or they are too young and green and lacking experience. I have seen nothing in Donnie Edwards to make me think his ability is on the decline, but I guess this is why they play the game.

I wouldn't replace our linebackers with any other AFCW LB corp.

[Mr. Laz]

i believe some of us were called 'morons' for suggesting this very thing when Herm arrived.


oh know, there is no way that Herm kills this offense .... we just lost willie Roaf.

[LOCOChief]

Originally Posted by TEX

Yep. He KNEW he could control Solari. He knew he could not control Saundars. That's why Herm said stuff like he didn't see the point in having an OC that would leave to be a HC. The real reason is that Herm is all controlling while being a puppet himself. He won't hire anyone who could one day be a threat. THIS is what my friends in New York meant when they said ,"You'll see." THIS is what I was so afraid of the second Herm was named HC. I knew we would get to this point, we just got here quicker than I expected.

My Uncle made a great observation while watching Hard Knocks last week. He said that Herm isn't a good coach, but he is schrewd and is a survivor. He's right.

No disrespect intended but that is pretty stupid. HC's control OC's they should because they are the boss's. If Saunders was the OC he would approach the game plan however Herm wanted. I imagine that Herm wants input from his personnel, he delegates well as a good manager should.

[LOCOChief]

Originally Posted by TEX

My Uncle made a great observation while watching Hard Knocks last week. He said that Herm isn't a good coach, but he is schrewd and is a survivor. He's right.

Is your uncle an NFL coach or player?

[Archie Bunker]

Originally Posted by Laz

i believe some of us were called 'morons' for suggesting this very thing when Herm arrived.


oh know, there is no way that Herm kills this offense .... we just lost willie Roaf.

You're still a moron if you think that Herm killed it all by himself. Too many facts say otherwise. Lack of talent killed it and then Herm buried it.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by LOCOChief

Is your uncle an NFL coach or player?

No, but he used to be a scout with the Houston Oilers from 1978 - 1996. He knows his stuff.

[BigRock]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Because Herm Edwards allowed him to. When Herm saw the results of said playcalling, that was it for Solari's ability to call his own plays.

But that game came after the preseason thing you talked about where Herm vowed not to run the offense a certain way. If Solari is the "puppet" that it's suddenly so en vogue to refer to him as, why would his plan for the first game of the season be the complete opposite of what Herm said he wanted?

[TEX]

Originally Posted by LOCOChief

No disrespect intended but that is pretty stupid. HC's control OC's they should because they are the boss's. If Saunders was the OC he would approach the game plan however Herm wanted. I imagine that Herm wants input from his personnel, he delegates well as a good manager should.

None taken. It's not stupid at all if the HC doesn't want a constant battle every week with the OC on how they should approach a game. Or during the game on what they should do depending on down and distance. It's even less stupid if a HC doesn't want anyone to stand in his way to make changes.

[the Talking Can]

better on paper...haven't seen it yet on the field

I'm very curious to see if whatshisname is actually better than kawika.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by Archie Bunker

You're still a moron if you think that Herm killed it all by himself. Too many facts say otherwise. Lack of talent killed it and then Herm buried it.

so who chose this talent?

who coached this talent?

Who pick the coaches?

who took the leagues #1 offense and made it 16th in less than 1 season?

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by TEX

Yep. He KNEW he could control Solari. He knew he could not control Saundars. That's why Herm said stuff like he didn't see the point in having an OC that would leave to be a HC. The real reason is that Herm is all controlling while being a puppet himself. He won't hire anyone who could one day be a threat. THIS is what my friends in New York meant when they said ,"You'll see." THIS is what I was so afraid of the second Herm was named HC. I knew we would get to this point, we just got here quicker than I expected.

My Uncle made a great observation while watching Hard Knocks last week. He said that Herm isn't a good coach, but he is schrewd and is a survivor. He's right.

Saunders clashed with Peterson. Supposedly they disagreed on just about every offensive personnel decision. There was no way Saunders was going to stick around unless he was the head coach. It didn't have anything to do with Herm; although I agree Saunders and Herm would have been oil and water.

Herm's a bad X's and O's coach but for some reason, that I'll never understand, he gets the players to rally around him and he's a great motivator. Hermisms must make a lot more sense after you've suffered multiple concussions.